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To: FlipWilson

FlipWilson wrote: “I would rather die free than resort to jailing my fellow citizens. I would rather die and my children die free persons than serfs.”

So, you don’t believe that society has the right to involuntarily quarantine people to protect others from wide infections/illnesses/deaths? I suppose you feel you have the right to ignore traffic regulations and drive as you see fit regardless of the accidents/injuries/deaths that might cause?


62 posted on 12/19/2021 7:55:04 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

There you go again with false equivalence.
Regular one-trick pony.i mean ass.


64 posted on 12/19/2021 10:54:08 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: DugwayDuke

Quote: “So, you don’t believe that society has the right to involuntarily quarantine people to protect others from wide infections/illnesses/deaths? I suppose you feel you have the right to ignore traffic regulations and drive as you see fit regardless of the accidents/injuries/deaths that might cause?”

You are really stretching it here. You are mixing violation of a criminal law with policy being made not by a legislative body, but delegated to the whim of ONE, UNO person. Yes, the legislature is giving the governor that power, but in doing so they are abdicating their legislative function. Each emergency should require cooperation with the legislature.

PA just passed a constitutional amendment requiring such cooperation. Lord help NYS, there will always be an emergency and there will always be a dictator. The NYS dems are happy with that as long as they get their payola. They aren’t interested in checks and balances, they just want to be in charge. Being elected to the legislature will become a paid vacation.

Under the proposed statute one can be involuntarily detained (we used to call that jailed) if “clear and convincing evidence” is shown to a panel. Per your question/example, a speeding ticket requires that the state prove “beyond a reasonable doubt” that I am guilty in a court of law. One then can appeal that ruling and if adverse, appeal again. There is no appeal here. There is nothing but one person deciding it is for your own good and off to ze camps. Arbeit Macht Frei!!!

You still haven’t answered my question or anyone else’s for that matter. I understand, you are afraid of the virus. Fear makes one turn to all sorts of means for quelling it. Totalitarianism is an easy place to turn. But the question on the table to you, in one form or another is this:

What makes you think delegating this kind of authority in the name of “public health” is a great idea?

Hey, during WWII, quarantining all Japanese Americans in the name of “public safety” seemed like a great idea. It wasn’t. Why can’t you see that “public health” is as easily fungible as “hate speech” when it comes to enforcing a law.

Hate speech=anything the left hates.

Public Health= anything the left hates and can now term as a threat to, wait for it, public health.

Gun violence=quarantine gun owners or, more probably, their guns.

With all due respect, I have reviewed your posts and have to conclude you are likely not a conservative. Anyone who witnessed the abuses of power by Cuomo, Whitmer, Murphy and every other dem governor during this and would advocate that they be given MORE power, is a leftist.

And on that note, could one not say that the elderly were “involuntarily quarantined” in nursing homes during 2020 in the name of “public health?’ How did that work out? I’d say we could ask some of the elderly but I am not in the mood for a seance.


65 posted on 12/19/2021 10:55:40 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: DugwayDuke
So, you don’t believe that society has the right to involuntarily quarantine people to protect others from wide infections/illnesses/deaths?

Over a cold? (which this is) No, absolutely not. You've gone full Karen.


67 posted on 12/19/2021 11:07:57 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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