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Columbia study: True U.S. COVID vaccine death count is 400,000
WND ^ | 12/15/2021 | Art Moore

Posted on 12/15/2021 6:46:58 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

The CDC's latest count of deaths attributed to COVID-19 vaccines is nearly 20,000, but a study by researchers at Columbia University estimates the actual number is 20 times higher.

The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, or VAERS, reports 19,886 deaths, 102,857 hospitalizations and a total of 946,461 adverse events due to COVID-19 vaccines through Dec. 3…

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: adverseevents; clotshot; covid19; deaths; dontgetit; killerjab; vaccination; vaccine
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To: jmacusa
in reality it’s the vaccines that kills you

Now wait just a dad-gum minute! I think corporate medical centers' avoidance of doing any sound COVID-19 treatment (HCQ, IVM, etc.), but demanding only the gubmint's protocols (e.g., remdesivir with constant bedrest) has been responsible for one huge chunk of the death count.

21 posted on 12/15/2021 7:14:02 PM PST by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
The USA, and much of the world, is plagued by Trillions of dollars in underfunded liabilities (Social Security, Medicare, Pensions, etc.). The USA at approximately 200+ Trillion. Vaccines are the nuclear option to solve the problem…

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/01/10/unfunded_govt_liabilities_--_our_ticking_time_bomb.html
22 posted on 12/15/2021 7:17:13 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Hard to know exactly what to believe. So I will believe my own eyes for now. Most I know that get the disease are twice or thrice vaccinated. Troubling.


23 posted on 12/15/2021 7:18:08 PM PST by week 71
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To: rx

Agreed


24 posted on 12/15/2021 7:19:21 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: semimojo

The CDC still oversees VAERS, correct?


25 posted on 12/15/2021 7:20:38 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: neverevergiveup

Yep, “lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics


26 posted on 12/15/2021 7:21:13 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I wonder how they’ll massage the numbers to hide the excess deaths for 2021 when they publish the numbers next year...


27 posted on 12/15/2021 7:21:56 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: CatOwner
Nearly every source, including the COVID vaxx experts on this forum, say the vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths attributed to COVID-19 the past few months comes from those not vaccinated. Honestly, I don’t know who to believe any more. Everyone has an agenda.

Sad, but true.
But when the CDC came out with the egregious statement a couple of months ago (and were quoted by the MSM, and various Government 'leaders') that 99% of CoVid patients in the hospitals were unvaccinated. It wasn't until a few weeks later, that we found out that this "99%" figure was back dated to January (whereas the implication was that the 99% number was the current status of the day - I believe around the August timeframe), when CoVid was near its peak - and almost no one was vaccinated.
So, when the CDC is lying its teeth off (either overtly, or omitting inconvenient facts), I wouldn't regard anything coming from them as approaching the truth.
Also, they've played the games of calling anyone unvaccinated who has not received the 3 shots (or is it 4?), or they hadn't waited long enough for the shots to be 'counted'. Or, their last shot was too long ago to count...

28 posted on 12/15/2021 7:22:06 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: neverevergiveup; CatOwner
Honestly, I don’t know who to believe any more. Everyone has an agenda.

Well, one thing you could try in a situation like this is trusting your own eyes and ears. When this whole thing began in Jan 2020, did you see people dying in the streets (like those supposed Chinese videos)? Did you see hospitals in your area overflowing with patients? Do you know a lot of otherwise healthy people who up and died because of COVID?

You can also use your own logical thinking. Do masks really work against viruses, especially the homemade cloth kind that people chuck into their purses and glove compartments and never wash? Why did Fauci say masks don't work and then change it to "just kidding, everybody wear a mask" 3 months later? Why was it "get the vaccine to protect yourself and others", then "vaccine only works with booster #1, booster #2, booster #3" to now "vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission - only lessen symptoms, but everybody get the vaccinations and the three boosters or else you're killing your grandma!"

You could also ask yourself why the inventor of the mRNA delivery method, Dr Robert Malone, is advising everyone to avoid the jabs, and especially not to give them to your kids, while Fauci and his cabal are advising people to give them to kids as young as five, despite there being a virtually ZERO percent chance of kids being affected by COVID.

Once you go over these sorts of things in your head, perhaps you might find it easier to know, at least, who NOT to trust.
29 posted on 12/15/2021 7:24:33 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
AND the risk of heart disease, heart attack, and stroke from the vax is far less than the risk of dying from COVID if you are unvaxed.

According to what?
30 posted on 12/15/2021 7:25:53 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Jan_Sobieski

VAERS is jointly “managed” by the CDC and the FDA.


31 posted on 12/15/2021 7:26:11 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Donald J. Trump is my president, not the Commander-in-Thief, brain-dead Joseph Stolen)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
The CDC still oversees VAERS, correct?

Yes.

32 posted on 12/15/2021 7:29:34 PM PST by semimojo
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To: jmacusa
But in reality it’s the vaccines that kills you.

Yup, and the best part is you get to blame those vaccine deaths on the original virus while also blaming those who refuse the "vaccine", thus creating more fear and shame to get more people to accept the poison. We are undergoing an incredible Darwinistic IQ test right now.
33 posted on 12/15/2021 7:29:43 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
Once you go over these sorts of things in your head, perhaps you might find it easier to know, at least, who NOT to trust.

Agreed! But this assumes people have the capacity to think critically. What if this capability has been removed from them? What if they are under a delusion (2 Thess 2:11)
34 posted on 12/15/2021 7:33:04 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: jmacusa
"Seems to be working out that way. Ingenious method for committing genocide. Think about it. You invent a ‘’deadly’’ virus and scare the bejeepers out of the world and everything willbe fine if you just get the jab. But in reality it’s the vaccines that kills you."

I have the same theory. If a bunch of satanic globalist wanted to murder millions of people they could never get away with it using conventional methods of genocide.

With this vaccine the deaths are spread out all over the place so no one really knows. Think about it, tens of thousands of people die every year of flu but how many do you know personally? Chances are very few if any. Now if this vaccine killed a million people spread out all over the country how many would you know? Couple that with the fact hospitals, pharma, the CDC, mainstream media and on and on are working 24/7 to cover up the vaccine deaths and you have the perfect way to commit massive genocide.

I theorize they start by contaminating a million or so doses. Then as the they get better at controlling the message and the cover up they slowly contaminate more and more with the boosters and so on. Before you know it this globalist satanic billionaire cult could kill hundreds of millions of people.

It may sound far fetched but to those who think that could not happen ask yourself what part of what we know does NOT fit perfectly with what I just described? How do you know this is not happening right now? How would you find out if it was?

35 posted on 12/15/2021 7:37:01 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: fr_freak

My wife and I know enough to not have started with the shots. We also knew they were lying early on when they stated the virus hadn’t reached the US until a few months into 2020. We are certain both our adult kid and my wife had it late December 2019 and, in my wife’s case, a few weeks into January 2020. Some of the classic COVID symptoms.

The exposure was to someone who days prior to Christmas 2019 had been flying back and forth on business between Silicon Valley (CA) and Phoenis, AZ. Was visiting our kid and roommate for a few days, and he was sick right at the beginning of the visit. Spent the 2-3 days visiting sleeping on their couch. A normally healthy 30 year-old, who works out at the gym, was unable to breathe comfortably. Went to an Urgent Care center. Standard flu test was negative.

A few days later, our kid was sick for a few days. Our luck, we were together for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day during those few days. A few days later, my wife got hit with the “flu”. No fever, but no energy, no appetite, and loss of taste, which lasted about three weeks. Early on when my wife was ill, I woke up one night and it felt like someone had dumped a bucket of water on me. I had broken a fever, spent the day taking it easy, and was on the amends the next day. I haven’t been sick since.


36 posted on 12/15/2021 7:38:14 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: precisionshootist
Couple that with the fact hospitals, pharma, the CDC, mainstream media and on and on are working 24/7 to cover up the vaccine deaths...

You forgot the Bohemian Grove guys. They're in on it too.

37 posted on 12/15/2021 7:40:40 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Jan_Sobieski; ransomnote; Cathi; metmom; grey_whiskers; bagster; tatown; Enlightened1; cgbg; ...

Ping.


38 posted on 12/15/2021 7:41:09 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

more than people who actually died, OF, the chinflu...


39 posted on 12/15/2021 7:43:16 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: precisionshootist; All

Ignore the sick Faucist attempting to laugh this atrocity off.


40 posted on 12/15/2021 7:43:33 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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