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1 posted on 12/12/2021 10:51:12 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: The "liberalism" that they speak of doesn't exist, it never existed. It's a mask.

2 posted on 12/12/2021 10:54:21 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

they are all collectivist control freaks ...


3 posted on 12/12/2021 10:54:58 AM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

There are plenty of progressives in the GOP.

I call them Bush League Republicans.

If they want open borders/amnesty, they are Bush League Republicans.


4 posted on 12/12/2021 10:56:01 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“Where did all of the progressives go?”

six feet down, or much further


5 posted on 12/12/2021 10:56:20 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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They are neither liberals nor progressives.

Call them what they really are: Communists


6 posted on 12/12/2021 10:57:30 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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It is a very strange beast that calls itself a “liberal” that wants to terminate the employment of people who wish to retain control over bodies entirely their own.


7 posted on 12/12/2021 11:00:54 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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The reason Progressives were able to hide in plain sight, is most progressives, up until 1965, actually were National Progressives, who thought what was best for America was best for the world.

After 1965, and getting stronger and stronger, the Progressive were of a majority world view that put "the world" ahead of America, and viewed the USA as more of a problem than a solution.

8 posted on 12/12/2021 11:03:28 AM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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11 posted on 12/12/2021 11:11:53 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society. The conservative is not opposed to social improvement, although he doubts whether there is any such force as a mystical Progress, with a Roman P, at work in the world. When a society is progressing in some respects, usually it is declining in other respects. The conservative knows that any healthy society is influenced by two forces, which Samuel Taylor Coleridge called its Permanence and its Progression. The Permanence of a society is formed by those enduring interests and convictions that gives us stability and continuity; without that Permanence, the fountains of the great deep are broken up, society slipping into anarchy. The Progression in a society is that spirit and that body of talents which urge us on to prudent reform and improvement; without that Progression, a people stagnate.

Therefore the intelligent conservative endeavors to reconcile the claims of Permanence and the claims of Progression. He thinks that the liberal and the radical, blind to the just claims of Permanence, would endanger the heritage bequeathed to us, in an endeavor to hurry us into some dubious Terrestrial Paradise. The conservative, in short, favors reasoned and temperate progress; he is opposed to the cult of Progress, whose votaries believe that everything new necessarily is superior to everything old.

Change is essential to the body social, the conservative reasons, just as it is essential to the human body. A body that has ceased to renew itself has begun to die. But if that body is to be vigorous, the change must occur in a regular manner, harmonizing with the form and nature of that body; otherwise change produces a monstrous growth, a cancer, which devours its host. The conservative takes care that nothing in a society should ever be wholly old, and that nothing should ever be wholly new. This is the means of the conservation of a nation, quite as it is the means of conservation of a living organism. Just how much change a society requires, and what sort of change, depend upon the circumstances of an age and a nation.

https://isi.org/modern-age/ten-conservative-principles/


Very few will read the original article.

What is the conservative position on progression?

Remember our founding fathers created a very inefficient government with lots of checks and balances.

Too many here want an efficient government to implement their “conservative” ideas.


12 posted on 12/12/2021 11:16:08 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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The modern left are not liberal. What they are is corrupt political figures. Possibly you could call them neo-psudo-communist?
Also,i wish the RINOs,essentially the same, would take a long walk off a short pier.


13 posted on 12/12/2021 11:17:04 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down pres. Brandon!)
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There’s still some liberals out there. They live in blue states and vote for RINOs like McCarthy, Graham etc. The progressives are now global communists. Citizens of the world like their savior obama.


15 posted on 12/12/2021 11:40:26 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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I hope more people recognize your point. Anyone who has studied the progressive era would immediately recognize all the same old progressive ideas and names in the New Deal, the FDR administrative state, Congress, and the states (such as governors Pinchot in PA and Olson in CA).

Oh, yeah, and then there’s Truman...


18 posted on 12/12/2021 12:00:55 PM PST by nicollo
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I never liked it when GHWB used the word liberal. It is the wrong word. Leftists was the better choice. Progressives is just a kinder gentler word because it sounds nice e.g. “who is against progress?”

Everyone knows what a Leftist wants.


19 posted on 12/12/2021 12:10:37 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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The Progressive Movement and the Transformation of American Politics

Progressivism was the reform movement that ran from the late 19th century through the first decades of the 20th century, during which leading intellectuals and social reformers in the United States sought to address the economic, political, and cultural questions that had arisen in the context of the rapid changes brought with the Industrial Revolution and the growth of modern capitalism in America. The Progressives believed that these changes marked the end of the old order and required the creation of a new order appropriate for the new industrial age.


21 posted on 12/12/2021 12:49:33 PM PST by Bratch
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they mutated into communists...


27 posted on 12/12/2021 3:17:30 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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Where have all the progressives gone? gone to commies every one;
when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn?


30 posted on 12/12/2021 8:12:05 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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