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Two Anecdotal Vax Stories (vanity)
12/4/21 | Self

Posted on 12/04/2021 4:03:15 PM PST by Levy78

I found out a few days ago a once close high school friend of mine had a heart attack last Saturday and died. 43 years old. He was soaking in the tub to aid his sore back. One of his 4 young children found him. He was a fit 6’ 180 lbs. No drugs, moderate/social alcohol use. He got his second vax 2 weeks prior. Not sure which one.

Another friend of mine had a stroke over the summer. 47 years old. Competitive cyclist and in phenomenal shape. Rides 100+ miles a week. Stroke was in the brainstem. He got off pretty lucky. Still dealing with speech issues, lethargy and loss of limb sensation issues apparently. I’ve seen him since, it’s mildly noticeable. Got his 2nd shot about a month prior to the stroke.


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To: setter

“If they were hospitalized they were probably killed.”

“The 29 year old’s wife is an RN at the hospital and she stayed with him 3 days straight.. Where do you crackpots come from?”

You’re not saying a person is a “crackpot” if they question how some patients are treated in modern hospitals, are you? For 30 years many in the US and throughout the world have complained about the treatment their loved ones have received in hospitals, they even raise the specter of euthanasia. They call it the exit treatment. They get a person on a breathing machine and pumped up with drugs. They take the person off the breathing machine and they die. I personally know of one such case. A loving wife, of course, would want to stay with her gravely ill husband. But do you suppose there’s also a chance she, a RN, wanted to see with her own eyes EXACTLY the treatment regimen for her husband? The abortion culture of death long ago extended to hospitals and nursing homes. The psyches of not a few in the medical field are utilitarian. They think the old, the sick, the weak, the handicapped, even those 65 and older, are burdens who don’t have a sufficient quality of life to keep living.


81 posted on 12/05/2021 1:14:29 AM PST by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: William Tell
It might actually be a life saver if the vaccine induces a minor heart attack and prevents a later more deadly attack.

Yes, it's established medical practice to initiate minor heart attacks as early as possible, in order to "toughen up" the heart muscle and thus stave off subsequent, more-severe cardiac arrests.

Having a series of smaller heart attacks has been determined to help prevent you getting the "Big One."

/mordant sarcasm

Regards,

82 posted on 12/05/2021 1:24:05 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: setter
Yes, you can get covid after being vaccinated but the vaccinations really lessons lessens the chance of dying

Yes, setter, because we can all travel to that alternate universe and see with our own eyes that those people would have died otherwise.

Regards,

83 posted on 12/05/2021 1:30:42 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: setter
Hospitals are graded on patient outcomes. They can lose accreditation, govt monies and grants and lose being insurance companies providers with too many deaths or bad outcomes. One reason why hospitals go above and beyond with testing etc A hospital that is “Purposely killing people” would not survive based upon the public knowledge.

But they get extra money, the more Covid cases they have.

And, remarkably, rewarding the determination of more Covid cases somehow seems to result in more Covid cases.

Regards,

84 posted on 12/05/2021 1:32:56 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: setter
I took my info from the Texas dept of health who said 87% of the people who died in August to October were unvaccinated

Oh, yeah? Well, 100% of the Texans who died between August to October of 1997 had not received the "Jab."

What does that tell us?

Regards,

85 posted on 12/05/2021 1:36:16 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: 1776 and beyond

The J&J is just as much of an mRNA vaccine as the others. It spoofs your cells into producing the spike protein by getting virus encoded mRNA into the ribosomes just like Pfizer and Moderna. The delivery system is different but the basic mechanism is the same, and it is anything but traditional.


86 posted on 12/05/2021 2:00:01 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

The ultimate difference is the way the instructions are delivered. The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines use mRNA technology, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses the more traditional virus-based technology.

mRNA is essentially a little piece of code that the vaccine delivers to your cells. The code serves as an instruction manual for your immune system, teaching it to recognize the virus that causes COVID-19 and attack it, should it encounter the real thing.

Instead of using mRNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions. This adenovirus is in no way related to the coronavirus. It is a completely different virus. Although it can deliver the instructions on how to defeat the coronavirus, it can’t replicate in your body and will not give you a viral infection.


87 posted on 12/05/2021 7:53:31 AM PST by 1776 and beyond (Beat covid and stay alive)
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To: alexander_busek
Having a series of smaller heart attacks has been determined to help prevent you getting the "Big One."

In my case I got a stent instead of a trip to the morgue. I think it is still true that for half of all cardiac patients their first symptom of heart disease is sudden death.

88 posted on 12/05/2021 8:23:04 AM PST by William Tell
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To: 1776 and beyond

All of the new vaccines including the J&J use mRNA technology. All of them cause the cell ribosomes to receive mRNA coded for the Covid spike protein which they then produce. If you think you’re avoiding this with the J&J, you’re mistaken.


89 posted on 12/05/2021 2:29:24 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: LilFarmer

A stent is used to open up clogged coronary arteries. I had one installed in 2011, and had a background of fitness, running races mile to marathon and playing Rec basketball a few times a week for over thirty years. So fitness is no guarantee of heart health. If I did get the clot shot and had a subsequent cardiac problem even an autopsy might not prove the vaccine at fault.

But the stats, if truthful do not speak well for the jab.


90 posted on 12/05/2021 2:39:52 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: setter

“I have 2, now 3 people I personally know who died of covid who were not vaccinated.’

They died from the Covid protocol, not the disease itself.

I have 5 comorbidities. But I was lucky enough to catch Covid in Jan 2020 before protocols were established. I could not breath, had bad chest pains and went to the hospital in an ambulance. I had Covid, a heart attack, influenza-A and pneumonia all-together. The doctors threw everything at it and I was cleared in 5 days. 7 IV drips and 5 days was all it took. No protocols.

They can cure it. It’s just now they get more money if the patient dies. So they do.


91 posted on 12/05/2021 2:53:33 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

“It’s just now they get more money if the patient dies. So they do.”

100% flat out lie.


92 posted on 12/05/2021 2:59:21 PM PST by setter
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To: William Tell
"It might actually be a life saver if the vaccine induces a minor heart attack and prevents a later more deadly attack."

Optimistic, and optimism is always appreciable, but lost a friend to the widowmaker after a mix-and-match Moderna booster on top of J&J -- identical protocol that led to Gov. Gruesome's 2-week disappearance. Non-smoker, not overweight, and the health-conscious cook in the family.

93 posted on 12/05/2021 3:00:28 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, and MERCK)
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To: Jane Long

Ivermectin is the only thing which protects you from both Covid and Vaxx injuries.


94 posted on 12/05/2021 3:11:49 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Levy78

Does anyone know of someone who died with natural immunity - that is they survived Covid, got it again and died?


95 posted on 12/05/2021 3:28:02 PM PST by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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