This is murder. Shooter brought out the gun in a verbal argument—between his wife and her ex for child visitation. Wasn’t even punched, fired first in the ground. Guy was itching to get a feather in his cap, when he shot the blond man wasn’t even advancing on him.
Bad name for the rest of us firearm owners.
Guess the Gubermint will raise the kid now.
I saw this video last week.
2nd degree murder....
Looks like to murder to me too. But the Texas Castle doctrine law may complicate things. We’ll see I guess.
I disagree.
Teal shirt dude was clearly the aggressor. Moving towards someone in a threatening manner is legally Assault. Physical contact is battery.
Yep, definitely not justified self-defense. If justice is served, the shooter will catch a manslaughter charge.
I’m not sure it’s so clear-cut. The “victim” advanced on him twice while talking about taking the gun away from him, he and might have been coming at him again. He’s out of the frame when the shot is fired.
Jimminy Christmas! that was Murder.. the guy left and came back with a rifle for a scuffle that wasn’t even his! and the guy never laid a hand on him or her.. he was 8-10 feet away and shot a guy who wasn’t advancing .. How are you gonna convince a rational person that the guy with the gun was in fear for his or the womans safety???
He had backed up, created separation, and fired when not being pursued.
The fact that the victim reached for the gun isn't sufficient.
Having said that, the victim should have made a full on effort to take the gun, once he made the move. He was larger and should have prevailed.
Another edition of
“When Idiots Collide”
Murder. There was absolutely no need to bring a gun into the argument, or to step back, aim and fire. He could have gone into the house and shut the door and gone about his day. Also, guys, don’t date single mothers if you can help it.
That was brutal and no remorse by that guy and he should not even have been involved, it wasn’t his kid. Wonder how he feels now sitting in jail, or did he get bail.
I wouldn’t charge the boyfriend, I would charge the wife for manslaughter for if she had not reneged on a legal order, the husband would not have been killed. I think a case could be made for it.
Guys goes in to get a gun, he actually escalates the situation, when you provoke the situation, going in to get a gun, even though you have not been threatened physically, much less physically assaulted...the only threat is to be sued, only to be sued, you lose your self defense case.
2nd degree murder. Easy call.
Assuming it is the shooters property- in Texas a jury could go either way in a case like this (regardless of what the law says Texans and especially those in West Texas really believe in Property rights). I wouldn’t be surprised by a hung jury. I don’t think the DA will even try for anything more than manslaughter (unless he tries to use a murder charge to plea down to manslaughter). However I would never bet money (or my life) on what a DA will or won’t do.
Interestingly if the shooter had waited a second or two, the shooter may have starred to advance toward him and he would have a much easier time justifying self defense.
The smart choice would be to have the mom go in the house, set up just inside the front door and wait for the cops. Then if the dad even tried to get in- obvious self defense.
As for this being a set up- don’t know - but it will be looked into. There was an incident in my neck of the woods a few years back. It wasn’t a set up, but the police gathered phones and records to see if an ex was “invited” to a current boyfriend’s house.
If it was a setup the dad played right into it.