The charts ARE misleading. They are simply a snapshot in time, and do not tell the WHOLE story.
Overall, in the UK, Covid deaths THIS year (after mass vaccinations) are DOWN 90% compared to last year. The vaccines HAVE lowered the overall death substantially, in the in the UK. They HAVE been good... VERY good.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom?view=daily-deaths&tab=compare
Now in places like Scotland, where 80% of the people are vaccinated, and have been for a long time, and where the Delta variant has been raging for months, practically ALL of the unvaccinated have already been infected. They've either died or been immunized naturally. They no longer show up in hospital statistics as much. STILL though, people who are unvaccinated are 3X as likely to be infected.
In other countries, like Singapore and Germany, where the Delta wave is still early, the crisis in the hospitals TRULY is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". I actually hate that term. But, the numbers in their hospitals don't lie.
https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/statistics
Unvaxxed people are 14 X more likely to be in the hospital in Germany. Sure, those numbers will drop... as fewer and fewer unvaxxed people remained uninfected. Eventually, their numbers will look like Scotland. But, in EVERY country, when the wave first starts and the hospitals are being overwhelmed, it's the UNVACCINATED who are predominantly there.
I was actually being very sincere when I asked you if you just don't understand data? Not everyone does. I do. And, I know a LOT of other people who do as well. I haven't just read the Daily Expose, I have read reports from all over the world, for close to 2 years now.
There is NO QUESTION: These vaccines are beneficial to people at high risk from COVID.
When you keep posting articles from this site, a source that seems hellbent on trying to scare people into avoiding something that is good for them, I have to wonder: Why?
I don't like getting into major battles on FR. It's generally not worth it. I agree with you on many of your other points, about the perils of censorship and I question the reasons there has been SO MUCH misinformation about Covid treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin. I like a good conspiracy as much as the next person. But, this site is consistently presenting a FALSE narrative. The vaccines, overall, have been extremely beneficial to the UK.
Watch out for that MOH site you posted. My security system warns it is a risky site to visit.
Can someone explain this to me?
P53, table 20 of the original document has the raw numbers of deaths. Plus the death rate per 100,000 plus standardized by age.
The expose article on its graph dealing with death, only used the raw numbers - 11 unvax deaths to 99 vax deaths Nov 6 - 12. But a higher percentage are vaxed, so that just comparing raw numbers doesn’t give the right picture.
I’m not happy with the original document standardizing for age without giving the data how they did that. And I’d need to see how they adjusted for the “per 100,000” numbers too. Without giving the original numbers, this just seems like they made up numbers without proof
I’m not vaccinated and never will be. But I did decide to look at these numbers since there was claims of falsification. And I found that. I don’t believe we need to weaken our argument by using wrong data. Unless I am seeing it wrong.
I would like anybody to explain, using numbers. Just saying that everything is incorrect isn’t specific enough