Posted on 11/20/2021 8:32:52 AM PST by ransomnote
[H/T tatown]
The basic data is available here, download the Excel file and see table 4:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland t.me/Alex_Berenson/613
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You are missing the big picture—this is not a science fiction “target one group with a bioweapon” stuff.
This is “flatten the curve”, the population curve stuff.
Any population. Any which way they can.
Save the planet because there are too many people stuff.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
The fascist elites want more “breathing space” in their dystopian future.
We’re hearing stories the last month or so from folks whose elderly loved one got a shot or a booster. Lots of unexpected deaths from sonething other than the coof or anything they were already afflicted with.
I’m starting to wonder if these damn things are all that great for the elderly.
“Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated individuals.”
You can’t understand a simple statement like this.
You seem to one of the people who desperately find kooky conspiracy websites to cherry pick data to support your views.
We need to acknowledge “why”. We know the answer.
The data is clear. The vaccines DO NOT WORK against whatever variant(s) of Covid is now more prevalent.
There is also a lot of noise in the data that the vaccines are affecting other illnesses in a potentially adverse manner.
Combine this knowledge with the adverse reactions and minimal risks for most people and the vaccinate everyone plan is foolish - even deadly.
This is criminal.
The implosion of the “safe and effective” narrative is a beautiful thing to watch.
The article wasn’t about COVID deaths, so Here in the Heartland was the one throwing out misinformation—or at least flak—in an pretty pitiful attempt make it look like the data doesn’t show what it clearly does.
If you and Here in the Heartland don’t apologize for your spreading of misinformation, then we can only assume that’s exactly what you’re here for. But you won’t get away with it here. Go somewhere else with your obvious attempt to sow confusion and doubt.
There may be another explanation (such as diverting medical resources or delaying treatment for other diseases) but this data, if true, looks ominous.
No idea who Alex Berenson is, but the data source he links to shows his chart is false.
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Your data, and attempt to refute Alex’s, is false. I don’t know you so I guess time will tell if that’s intentional.
He quoted all cause mortality and you refuted with
‘with Covid’ mortality.
Deaths resulting from the ‘vaccine’ are attributed to natural causes - that’s why all cause mortality is up.
I’m sad to say that every 20, 30, and 40 year old in my office has gotten it. I found out recently that out of 30 people, I am the only one not vaxxed. And I thought at least some of them were smart people.
Part of this ‘story’ is that there is an effective range from day one of the vaccination. In the case of AstraZenica...you have about 60 days of great protection, and then it rapidly declines. It’s worthless by the fifth month. With the other vaccines...they give you reasonable protection for about 120-150 days, and then their level of protection is marginal.
Swedish University in the past week published results...pretty discouraging if you felt true protection for a year.
Look, pendejo. Are you deliberately not understanding what ALL CAUSE DEATHS means?
Those charts don't mention corona virus. Its really a very simple concept, kid.
Look at all the people that died between a specific age range (10 - 59). See which of the dead people were vaxxed or unvaxxed. Count and compare.
That means dead people that died of the corona, from the vax, from falling and bumping their head, from being bored to death from listening to people like you.
ALL CAUSE DEATH.
Think about it, it may come to you. If not, phone a friend.
#WhereDoWeGetTheseGuys
My perfectly healthy 19-year-old brother too—and for the same reasons. I was so bummed.
For the THIRD time, Berenson’s data is for ALL deaths, not just Covid-19 deaths. And he eliminates the elderly (high- co-morbidities) and those under 10 (almost entirely unvaccinated).
It is. And watching the poison lovers' desperate attempts to save the vax is delicious. They'll say anything at this point.
| SamAdams76 wrote: |
| I have not gotten the vaccines and don't intend to, but I'm thinking that this graph is a reflection of the fact that people who choose not to get vaccinated are pretty healthy in the first place - so it stands to reason that they would die less than their vaccinated counterparts. Basically people getting these vaccines are sickly to begin with and are more likely to die sooner. Just my opinion. |
| Mr Rogers wrote: |
It is plausible that the people under 60 getting the shot are doing so BECAUSE they have significant comorbidities. A healthy 30 year old has no reason to get the shot. Someone with diabetes and heart issues would. So one should expect higher ALL CAUSE morbidity among younger people who take the shot! |
| Bobalu wrote: |
I’m not among the jabbed but the healthier a person is the less likely they probably are to get the jabs... So statistically the unjabbed group is possibly healthier than the jabbed group...this may skew the statistics a bit. |
The relative health of the vaxxed and unvaxxed is one factor to consider, but it doesn't eliminate the others. It's likely a combination factors. and not 100% attributable to one cause.
It's not just the unhealthy getting the vax. 95% of Britains 18 and older have received two doses because of employment, travel, social restrictions used to twist the arms of most people into getting it. It's possible the 5% unvaxxed have health issues which make them wary of getting the shot (autoimmune, cardio inflammation, clotting concerns, prior strokes and heart attacks etc.)
But what about the fact that all mortality is up in Britain post 'vaccination'?
The majority of those who are recorded as dying post 'vaccine' (reporting is just a sliver of reality) often do so within a few days:
The Covid 'vaccines' are more deadly than the flu vax.
What about the unprecendented level of post vax deaths reported, despite repression of data, post Covid 'vaccination'.
The VAERS data is a tiny sliver, likely less than 1% of the whole picture, at what point does startling degrees of death result in higher death stats for the 'vaccinated'.
Those dying as a result of the 'vaccine' are almost always attributed to natural causes.
Recall funeral home directors report that 'business' was flat through 2020 (with all cause deaths falsely being labeled 'Covid') and then has exploded post introduction of the 'vaccine'?
The whistleblowers talking about the CDC's lethal Covid Protocol. All these factors mean people are dying outside of Covid- all cause mortality SHOULD be up given the circumstances.
You can’t prove it’s poison and won’t be able to for 55 years .....
Actually we already know it’s poison from several peer reviewed studies which confirm the spike protein is toxic.
They have other motivations to keep their dirty secrets.
It is discouraging and I agree with your assessment. They will not tell the public that truth. They will not admit what is obvious that natural immunity is far superior and longer lasting either.
They are liars. There is no nice way to say it any more. The corporate medicine practitioners of the US have bought into the lie where trained doctors and scientists refuse to admit the truth and willingly participate in the lie.
I expect lies from the media, big pharma, and politicians. The dishonesty of medical professionals who anecdotally must see this even more clearly than we do is the biggest disappointment to me.
The problem is even larger than just “vaccines”. The therapeutics clearly have efficacy. Despite this, the top-tiered medical system in the world still follows the stay at home until your lips turn blue and come to the hospital plan.
It is outrageous. People should be very angry about what is happening. We are killing people. Literally. On top of that consequence we have crippled our economy, harmed our children, and created a state of fear in our nation.
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