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Why Dean Martin split with Jerry Lewis, adored Sinatra and pretended to drink
New York Post ^ | November 18, 2021 | Doree Lewak

Posted on 11/18/2021 5:23:53 PM PST by nickcarraway

Not everything about “King of Cool” Dean Martin was what it seemed. The dashing playboy and heartthrob was actually a devoted family man to eight children. The legendary drinker — who always had a tumbler in hand —secretly filled his glass with apple cider. And that gleaming grin masked pain.

A new documentary explores the complexities of the beloved crooner, comedian and founding member of the Rat Pack. “Dean Martin: King of Cool,” which premieres Friday on TCM, features never-before-seen archival footage and delves into Martin’s strained relationship with Jerry Lewis, his bromance with Frank Sinatra and the personal tragedy of losing a child.

Born Dino Paul Crocetti in Steubenville, Ohio, in 1917 to Italian immigrant parents, Martin didn’t learn English until age 6 and was considered nearly illiterate. The hardscrabble life in his working-class town couldn’t have been further from the shiny patina of Hollywood, yet Martin’s irrepressible talent was undeniable. His seamstress mother, Angela, proclaimed that if her kid didn’t make it as a singer, nobody could.

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: deanmartin; franksinatra; hollywood; jerrylewis; ratpack
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
One of the funniest bits from the roasts.

Foster Brooks Roasts Don Rickles


61 posted on 11/18/2021 7:49:23 PM PST by Bratch
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To: nickcarraway
The drinker image seemed to go with his voice. I mean he wasn't sharply and crisply enunciating everything. More like the opposite.

Also his stage and screen personality had to do with who he was playing opposite. I don't think he did the drunk bit in his films with Jerry Lewis, but later it gave him a way of distinguishing himself from Sinatra and the rest of the Rat Pack. Sinatra had to be top dog, and Dean and the others had to work around that and find a way to fit in and to stand out.

62 posted on 11/18/2021 7:51:49 PM PST by x
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To: Impala64ssa

Pardon me, that was the Tonight Show Eith Johnny Carson. My how time flies.


63 posted on 11/18/2021 8:32:29 PM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: A strike

It’s good that Lurker said “coolest men”
instead of “coolest singer”. “Coolest
singer” would be rather difficult to
set in Martin’s genre. Few come to mind
and are very much open for debate.
Johnny Mathis
Tony Bennet
Wayne Newton
Sammy Davis Jr.
Frank Sinatra (not a big fan).
Genre=high rollers of Vegas.


64 posted on 11/18/2021 8:37:11 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Spacetrucker

Yes, that particular gag was used a few times. Also Don Rickles was equal opportunity with the insults, he made fun of just about every conceivable race, ethnicity, etc


65 posted on 11/18/2021 8:39:55 PM PST by Impala64ssa (If a liar's pants really did catch on fire CNN and MSNBC would be more fun to watch)
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To: PROCON

Trump, Zappa, JimRob, and Laz


66 posted on 11/18/2021 9:04:29 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2 )
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To: Vision
“anyone who uses the word “bromance” should have an anvil fall on their head”.

Absolutely. :)

67 posted on 11/18/2021 9:19:44 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: PROCON; Lurker
The other 4? 😎

Steve McQueen, Cary Grant, David Niven, James Garner.

68 posted on 11/18/2021 9:35:49 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitude. --Frederick Douglass)
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To: Albion Wilde
to one and all:

Think about the beginning of the "Dean Martin Show."

Dean in a prone / laying down, position on top of the piano.

Now, what is the first thing any singing coach will say, "You need to be standing erect manner," in order to sing.

Not good old Dino, he just belted them songs out like it was a nothing-burger.

That's what you call natural talent, and did Dino ever have IT!!!!!

69 posted on 11/18/2021 10:12:28 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s). )
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To: nickcarraway
Sway - Dean Martin

I love this performance, but once I understood him to say, "other dancers may pee on the floor", I always think of that, but I still always listen to his fantastic talent.   Yes, I've always thought he was better than ol Blue Eyes.

70 posted on 11/18/2021 11:22:51 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Lurker
McQueen...Charles Bronson...Fred Astaire...Bob Hope...Jimmy Stewart....

I've read that Jerry Lewis and Bing were kind of jerks...

71 posted on 11/18/2021 11:40:35 PM PST by cherry
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To: Lurker

when you mentioned “wayne” for some reason I thought of Wayne Newton.....lol


72 posted on 11/18/2021 11:42:08 PM PST by cherry
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To: noexcuses

Bing abused his entire family. Wife and kids were scared to death of him.


73 posted on 11/19/2021 12:20:02 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for the post. This is a great distraction from the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in today. I have spent hours watching old clips and complete shows of Martin, Rickles and Carson over the past couple of years. An era when comedy was actually funny.


74 posted on 11/19/2021 12:22:19 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: WWG1WWA

I have no idea, but I believe one of his sons said that, but others said it wasn’t true.


75 posted on 11/19/2021 12:31:19 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
"Also, I would put NKC up there. He was also a great jazz pianist."

NKC??

76 posted on 11/19/2021 12:37:04 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Nat King Cole


77 posted on 11/19/2021 12:40:36 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Beowulf9

My hubbie worked for Century Plaza hotel in 1990’s and was excited when Jerry Lewis was to be a guest. He quickly learned the man was an insufferable ahole…. Just leave it at that. Dashed his love of this man’s comic genius…. Sad.


78 posted on 11/19/2021 12:44:03 AM PST by antceecee
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To: nickcarraway
"Nat King Cole"

Ah...thank you. And correct!

79 posted on 11/19/2021 12:45:01 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Vision

You just used it. In quotes counts. Goodbye.


80 posted on 11/19/2021 12:51:27 AM PST by ProfessorGoldiloxx
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