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Arabic Words for 'Gay' Need to Be Better than 'Pervert' or 'Deviant'
The Atlantic ^
| Steve Clemons
Posted on 11/14/2021 7:33:36 PM PST by Trump20162020
I don't speak Arabic -- though I recently ordered the beginner module from Rosetta Stone which still sits in its wrapper on my desk shelf. (I am in the Arab world a lot however and learning more each trip) Perhaps after the conventions.
But a friend, Foued Mokrani, speaks Arabic just fine -- and reported on his Facebook page the following after watching a film during a flight to Paris:
I watched the movie The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel and noticed they translate the word ''gay" to ''pervert" in the Arabic subtitles!! Very dumb.
Mokrani responded:
Somehow there is no decent word to say homosexual in Arabic. . .They started recently using a word for it but still very unfamiliar one.
In Arabic, there is no exact word to say "homosexual." People use bad words like faggot, pervert, or just use the sentence "liking people from same sex." Recently, a few people started using the word "mithli" modifying the word for "sex" -- meaning "same as me".
What they used in the movie is "pervert" to translate the word gay -- or "cheth" in Arabic.
Other commenters on the Mokrani thread wrote that Arabic also tends to describe gays as deviants -- using words like "munharif" and "shadh."
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
TOPICS: Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: arabic; cheth; faggots; gay; homofascism; homosexualagenda; lgbt; pinkmafia; steveclemons; steveisaretard; theatlantic; thefaglantic
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The article is about the Arabic language. Many people on this thread are presuming all Arabs or Arabic speaking people are Moslem. They are not. Many, in fact, are Christians.
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:13:38 PM PST
by
fidelis
(Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
To: Trump20162020
“Arabic Words for ‘Gay’ Need to Be Better than ‘Pervert’ or ‘Deviant’”
Why?
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:13:50 PM PST
by
BobL
(I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
To: Trump20162020
So, what is this author going to do about it?
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:15:33 PM PST
by
The_Media_never_lie
(If the votes are a lie, they must de cert i fy!)
To: Telepathic Intruder
Actually it means merry. Jolly. Not simple happy.
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:15:41 PM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Are you saying that pussy hats and candlelight vigils are unlikely to bring about change in the Islamic world?
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:17:19 PM PST
by
j.havenfarm
(20 years on Free Republic, 12/10/20! More than 3700 replies and still not shutting up!)
To: Trump20162020
There’s no such thing as “being gay”.
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:19:11 PM PST
by
nagant
To: fidelis
What do Arabic speaking Christians call homosexuals? Is it any different that what the Muslims use or what?
Freegards
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:20:20 PM PST
by
Ransomed
To: Trump20162020
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:20:46 PM PST
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: fidelis
Fine. Good for them, too.
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:21:04 PM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: j.havenfarm
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:21:13 PM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
To: jocon307
It’s mostly a).
Honestly, the issue is never the issue. Its about ushering in communism above all.
If Moslems don’t toe all the liberal lines, then they will simply be ignored until useful.
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:24:18 PM PST
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: Trump20162020
Other commenters on the Mokrani thread wrote that Arabic also tends to describe gays as deviants -- using words like "munharif" and "shadh." Even a stopped clock……
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:24:32 PM PST
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
To: Trump20162020
Now that they have destroyed the Western European languages, they are moving on to the others.
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:40:40 PM PST
by
The Antiyuppie
(When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
To: Trump20162020
“...Arabic also tends to describe gays as deviants...”
OK, I understand that ‘deviant’ has a negative connotation, but doesn’t it come from the word deviate? Don’t homosexuals deviate from the norm?
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:48:14 PM PST
by
hanamizu
To: Trump20162020
Sounds like they have is accurate, what is the issue?
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posted on
11/14/2021 8:48:20 PM PST
by
doorgunner69
("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
To: hanamizu
Don’t homosexuals deviate from the norm?
Homosexuals deny there is a norm. They would maintain their status is no different than someone with red hair . . . uncommon, but not abnormal.
This requires them to define the value of sexual activity only in terms of pleasure and perceived self-fulfillment. I have used the term pervert raising my children, as it covers not just homosexuals, but trans-everything and fetishists etc.
The term also assumes that there is a proper purpose for sexual activity, and that perverts distort and warp that purpose.
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posted on
11/14/2021 9:37:45 PM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
To: Trump20162020
Ok I volunteer to go to the Arab world to spread that message and I’ll have 40 or 50 pigs (via cargo plane) with me to introduce pork into their diet as well. Will I be welcomed?
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posted on
11/14/2021 9:50:15 PM PST
by
toddausauras
(How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
To: fidelis
The article is about the Arabic language. The article claims to be about the Arabic language, but it's really about gay activism. There is no single Arabic language in practical terms. There's a collection of about a dozen dialects and a sort of de facto standard dialect that is mostly used for training non-Arabic speakers in a sort of standard way. Each dialect reflects the people who speak it, and they each have their own slang and borrow words from other languages like English and French as they find them useful.
What the author really wants to convey is that Arabic speakers are mean to people with alternative lifestyles and if they would stop using negative terms for gay/same-sex/queer/etc... people, maybe they would stop throwing them off buildings. I wonder if it dawned on the writer that there's not even really a standard "word for gay" in English thanks to the alphabet people and the resulting tribalism. I wonder if that little tidbit is lost on the author.
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posted on
11/14/2021 9:56:43 PM PST
by
jz638
To: Telepathic Intruder
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posted on
11/15/2021 2:42:01 AM PST
by
NetAddicted
( Just looki)
To: dfwgator
Send this to the Atlantic.
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posted on
11/15/2021 2:45:21 AM PST
by
NetAddicted
( Just looki)
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