Healthy granddad 57 left 'paralyzed' and on ventilator after vaccine
Posted on 10/29/2021 4:00:57 PM PDT by Spacetrucker
You’re in a tough spot. Turn it around on her. If she really loved you, she would not insist you take something that you are unsure. Neither of you will convince the other of their position, and there is no compromise; one wins, one loses. She should also not allow her mother to jump in and gang up on you, and from now on you will only discuss your medical issues with your wife.
Then get up and leave to another room, go for a ride, a drink, to cut the grass, whatever. Conversation is over. Every time she brings it up, tell her no, then walk away until she understands you mean it.
It is fine for the mother-in-law to gang up on him, as long as she no longer lives in that house!
;-)
the whole nowin motherinlaw thing aside,
if she doesn’t understand it won’t stop you from getting it or spreading it, it’s either take it or else... damn
Bravo.
I *think* most employers, if spoken to cogently, won't have a fit if the employee asks for an exemption.
There is a terrible war for talent. Nobody wants to lose good people.
Your mileage may vary.
The vax is generally unsafe.
Show them the pictures. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3973960/posts?q=1&;page=151 comment 185
Truthfully, guidance can be found even here, you just have to be able to “shift the wheat from the chaff”. Even off-the-cuff comments can have a small measure of wayfinding.
As others have pointed out, it’s impossible to have a discussion involving logic with someone who is driven by emotionalism. However, as a logical thinking person, one has to at least partly go into the realm of logic and common sense or there is no sense to any decisions that anyone makes.
Where I live, it seems I’m constantly bombarded with messages to get EGT’d (not necessarily by a spouse or family member) and what I’ve done is create my own list of questions. This is a list that gets added to and revised daily which isn’t really hard if ones spends even a few minutes here on FR. Basically, what I say to these heavy handed persuaders is this... “Maybe your right... maybe I should get EGT’d... problem is that I have a few nagging questions that are bothering me. Tell ya what... let me ask the questions that have been bothering me and if you can successfully answer these and convince me I have nothing to worry about, I’ll make the appointment tomorrow to get EGT’d.”
The questions themselves are not hard to put together and frankly, they write themselves.... out of the dozens and dozens of questions that are at the ready, I’ve never had anyone make it past about 5 before saying “ok, I see where you are coming from.”
Here... this can be your first question. 1. Tony Fauci has given testimony at the Senate several times and he clearly lied when he was asked by Rand Paul about funding ‘gain of function research’ at the Wuhan lab. This has now been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt. What else has Fauci lied about? How can you be sure that anything else he says is truthful? And on what basis should anyone put any trust in the top infectious disease expert in the country when he unequivocally and 100% lied about this very basic issue? Aren’t liars supposed to be distrusted and avoided at all costs? [Along with any questions, have the links handy. For this series of questions, have the video links of Fauci lying and the NIH document where they now admit that he lied.]
If whoever is trying to convince you makes it past question 1, they can go to question 2....
I agree.
Oh, BOY, do I understand that POV - read Atlas Shrugged more times than I can count, and agree, Rand was genius at identifying issues but bargain basement at solutions.
In a way this is what I am trying to do, just meeting with a TON of resistance.
Saving Ayn Rand post.
Do you acknowledge this is a symptom of a bigger issue with these two?
Thank you all very much for your thoughts; as some of the issues I am dealing with in this are emotional and difficult for me to deal with in my current situation. For a certainty it will not be resolved easily.
Yes, without a doubt. Though my MIL and wife are more often at odds with day-to-day things, they are near militantly agreed on this.
I am not going to cross examine you (though I am tempted :-) ) but do you understand that it is inappropriate for the mother in law to live under your roof and criticize you?
Healthy granddad 57 left 'paralyzed' and on ventilator after vaccine
I think a lot of people have given you good advice, and I am sure you already tried some of their suggestions.
That being said, what is at the heart of her insistence that you get vaxxed?
Is she that afraid Covid will fell you? Then emphasize the treatments available.
Does she not care about you and only whether or not she gets Covid?
There is no reasoning with her if she thinks your being vaxxed will prevent that.
Then the question becomes do you want to be married to someone that unreasonable. I guess this depends on how unreasonable she is in general and how this is impacting your feelings for her. If this is really an atypical level of unreasonableness from her, then your only really option is to keep plugging away on the illogic of her position and hope to wear down.
Does she need you to be vaxxed to make her and her mother feel they made the right decision? Then come up with logical reasons why it made sense for them to make that decision but for you not to. But this only works if her level of regret is minor.
Now if she is really, really afraid she made the wrong decision and needs you to be in the same boat as her and to feel as vulnerable to the unknown long term effects of the vax, I don’t know what you do. First of all, she’s unlikely to admit to it. Secondly, that is a very selfish position.
But if she is an emotional liberal (is she?), then her calling you selfish is projection and you have your answer.
Oh, I most CERTAINLY do understand that, and am often driven to tell her to “SHUT IT” when she gets overbearing.
OK—well you can read my views on this in the thread.
But—you do deserve a happy rest of your life, and I hope you will do what you need to do to make that happen.
Best wishes.
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