Posted on 10/23/2021 12:28:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of "Rust" with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints about long hours, long commutes and waiting for their paychecks, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
Safety protocols standard in the industry, including gun inspections, were not strictly followed on the "Rust" set near Santa Fe, the sources said. They said at least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to a production manager about gun safety on the set.
Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set on Saturday said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges.
Baldwin's stunt double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was "cold" — lingo for a weapon that doesn't have any ammunition, including blanks — two crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.
"There should have been an investigation into what happened," a crew member said. "There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn't happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush."
A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires that he sent a text message to the unit production manager. "We've now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe," according to a copy of the message reviewed by The Times.
"Corners were being cut — and they brought in nonunion people so they could continue shooting," the knowledgeable person said.
The shooting occurred about six hours after the union camera crew left.
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Certain COVID protocols obsessively observed even if only for show and with zero health benefit yet actual health and safety overall goes ignored. Not just a film set problem.
Sounds like criminal negligence to me.
WUT? Arick barwin shot and killed someone in a tragic accident?
Sounds like there are enough crew member complaints to make this a big deal for Baldwin. His armorer and probably assistant director have lost their careers.
You'd think that would be at least mentioned on the news.
Reporters keep using “misfire” to describe unintentional discharges.
To me, “misfire” means the gun failed to fire or the cartridge was a dud.
This is the first I’ve heard of it...
I'm not a lawyer, but this seems like Baldwin was negligent:
Liability is acquired... if you were acting negligently when you caused the harm.
For example, imagine that you were driving down a neighborhood road with a speed limit of 25 miles per hour. You’re in a bit of a hurry, however, so you’re driving at a solid 35 miles per hour. There’s no reason for you to think, and you don’t think that you’re creating any exceptional risk by driving a bit over the speed limit—heck, plenty of the people in the neighborhood do so all the time. Suddenly, however, a child dashes out into the street, and that 10 miles per hour over the limit is what prevents you from stopping before your vehicle hits and kills the child.
Here you were not acting in a normal and non-negligent manner. We all have a generalized legal duty to not cause unjustified harm to others. Your intentional disregard of the stated speed limit violated that legal duty, even though you did not know you were creating an exceptional risk of death.
Criminal liability, however, presupposes that Baldwin knew he could kill and didn't care...he's a dirt bag but this would hinge on his state of rage at that moment:
Criminal liability requires recklessness.
Recklessness occurs when you not only violate a legal duty to not cause harm, but you explicitly know you are doing so, and you intentionally disregard that risk.
You know (as we all know, so it is “common knowledge” in legal terms) that driving while intoxicated creates a risk to others of death or serious bodily injury. When you become voluntarily intoxicated and operate a motor vehicle you are aware of the risk you are creating, and you are choosing to disregard that risk.
Should a death result, your recklessness makes that not an accident or even mere negligence, but a crime—involuntary manslaughter.
Sounds like several people were negligent.
Exactly- good catch- The gun was ‘disharged’ several times- it didnt misfire-
Under Penal Code 246.3 PC, the crime of negligent discharge of a firearm means willfully to discharge a firearm, in a grossly negligent manner, such that it could result in someone’s injury or death. The offense can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, and carries a sentence of up to 3 years in custody.
Penal Code 246.3 PC – Negligent Discharge of a Firearm
Yes, that is the reporters word. The crew members said “discharges”.
see my post above- it sure does sound like negligence- He likely will try to blame others, but he ultimately is responsible for discharging a gun in negligence (without making sure it was unloaded, or that it had blanks himself personally even though handed the gun by others who said it was ok- ignorance of the danger of the gun simply because someone else handed it over and said it was ok is no excuse)
Dude has faced zero consequences in his life so I’m thinking Alec Baldwin gets away with this since he has gotten away with everything else he has ever done. Leftists are like that, and even YouTube made it official and admitted they are racist and hate black people. I saw an article on that, “YouTube Bans Rapper’s ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ Song, Citing ‘Medical Misinformation’ Concerns”, and you can give that a look at PJmedia. No other possible explanation exists for taking down a very popular song by a black man. Defund YouTube and Google (aka stop using them). Just as the only explanation for Alec is too leftist to fail.
“A colleague was so alarmed by the [prop gun misfires] that he sent a text message to the unit production manager. “We’ve now had 3 [accidental discharges].”
Yeah those are two different things. There’s also hang fire, where the trigger is pulled and the firing is delayed.
Sounds like a normal day in the life of a communist democRAT to me.
We all need more facts.
Such as, did Baldwin pick up the gun, point it at people, and pull the trigger? Was a scene being filmed? I’ve heard that they weren’t even filming, and weren’t rehearsing, which leads to many questions as to why the heck he had the gun in his hand in the first place. And then leading to questions, did he pull the trigger, and did he point the gun and pull the trigger? With these stories of a “misfire”, they make it sound as if the gun went off by itself. Did it?
Criminal liability may not be established, but, I’m sure civil liability lawsuits are already being drawn up.
Yes. I hate the guy, but to be fair there are several people who have to okay a prop gun on set before it is allowed on and one of them (the director) was shot.
Oh, I agree. But he’s not alone in the chain of screw ups.
Indeed. Careless negligence all around that film set, and certainly by Alec Baldwin. A gun is a tool, and the handler should always respect the tool they're using. Disrespect that tool, and injuries happen. Worse when a film crew cuts corners without safety in mind.
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