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1 posted on 10/23/2021 11:54:34 AM PDT by ransomnote
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While I think the explanations of the data offered in this post are somewhat facile, the data is concerning. Even alarming.


34 posted on 10/23/2021 12:50:01 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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If this data is authentic - goodness, almost everyone I know including most of my blood relatives (besides my household) are in spot that may be catastrophic.

This is horrifying. Praying it is false. I want to be mocked in the following years for not taking these untested treatments.


35 posted on 10/23/2021 12:53:15 PM PDT by week 71
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Is it possible to buy stock in the funeral industry?


39 posted on 10/23/2021 1:06:58 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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"Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson and Dr Ralph Baric) within 13 weeks."

I wouldn't be surprised if the vaccines impair our immune systems to some degree, but if millions of people were losing ALL of their immune response within 13 weeks of vaccination, people would be dropping like flies. At the very least, tens of millions would be seriously ill. They'd be like H.G. Wells's Martians, who were killed-off by common bacteria that we have developed immunity to.
44 posted on 10/23/2021 1:16:46 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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My second dose was January 7. And I am a senior citizen by any definition.

That was 41 weeks ago. So, at 5% a week, I am now -205%, or, assuming my immune system was 100% on December 16, 2020 when I got the first dose of Pfizer, I should now have a -115% immune system.

AND, I’m around COVID almost every day.

Just lucky, I guess.


45 posted on 10/23/2021 1:23:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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Been vaccinated for over 7 months.

I guess I’m literally dead.

In the words of Monty Python.

“I feel fine.”


49 posted on 10/23/2021 1:52:55 PM PDT by Bayard
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This isn’t data for total immune system enhancement or degradation but a percentage of vaccinated positive cases reported vs unvaccinated positive cases reported. It does not show evidence of total immune system degradation but a higher number of vaccinated new cases than unvaccinated cases. The Covid vaccine is dangerous (wife has had two mini strokes, has been having seizures, and has developed Crohn’s since taking the J&J vaccine) but this data does not show that the vaccine is causing immune system degradation/collapse.


50 posted on 10/23/2021 1:53:03 PM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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I have a friend who has case of shingles that won’t go away. Yes he was double vaxxed. Of course this doesn’t prove causality.


56 posted on 10/23/2021 2:48:32 PM PDT by grumpa
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Where would the anti-vaxxers be without the future tense?


59 posted on 10/23/2021 2:57:56 PM PDT by firebrand (Secret: The number of the unvaccinated keeps decreasing & the number vaccinated keeps increasing!)
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“And through covetousness they will make merchandise of you.”


60 posted on 10/23/2021 2:59:39 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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** bkmk *”


61 posted on 10/23/2021 3:01:43 PM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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Related... FROM 2012

"Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus"

An early concern for application of a SARS-CoV vaccine was the experience with other coronavirus infections which induced enhanced disease and immunopathology in animals when challenged with infectious virus [31], a concern reinforced by the report that animals given an alum adjuvanted SARS vaccine and subsequently challenged with SARS-CoV exhibited an immunopathologic lung reaction reminiscent of that described for respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) in infants and in animal models given RSV vaccine and challenged naturally (infants) or artificially (animals) with RSV [32], [33]. We and others described a similar immunopathologic reaction in mice vaccinated with a SARS-CoV vaccine and subsequently challenged with SARS-CoV [18], [20], [21], [28]. It has been proposed that the nucleocapsid protein of SARS-CoV is the antigen to which the immunopathologic reaction is directed [18], [21]. Thus, concern for proceeding to humans with candidate SARS-CoV vaccines emerged from these various observations.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421

63 posted on 10/23/2021 3:19:53 PM PDT by justlittleoleme (Just a man without a Party.)
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So, my question is this: what about those who have had the delta variant and have natural immunity. I’ve heard that even with natural immunity, the Covid virus still affects your immune system. Anyone in this community know anything about this?


64 posted on 10/23/2021 3:21:31 PM PDT by Shery ( )
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Nuremberg


98 posted on 10/23/2021 5:57:59 PM PDT by northislander
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Thought you might be interested in this:l

Deaths from “all causes” are abnormally high. Tucker Carlson interview:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0aS9dasD1CJG/


108 posted on 10/23/2021 7:16:38 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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It seems time will tell.


113 posted on 10/23/2021 8:52:06 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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“In individuals aged greater than 30, the rate of positive COVID-19 test is higher in vaccinated individuals compared to unvaccinated”. – PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report for week 41.

“There is the potential for ADE, but the bigger problem is probably Th2 immunopathology,” says Ralph Baric, an epidemiologist and expert in coronaviruses—named for the crown-shaped spike they use to enter human cells—at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

In previous studies of SARS, aged mice were found to have particularly high risks of life-threatening Th2 immunopathology in which a faulty T cell response triggers allergic inflammation, and poorly functional antibodies that form immune complexes, activating the complement system and potentially damaging the airways.”.

116 posted on 10/23/2021 10:32:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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I don’t think the vax depletes the immune system my doc is saying he is finding MANY new patients with autoimmune problems and what this article states is not the same thing!! I am immune comprised my immune system was attacking my central nervous system MS my doc has had me in remission for 6 years would NEVER take a chance on this vax NO WAY!!


123 posted on 10/23/2021 11:01:38 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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