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‘Rust’ Production Company To Launch Internal Safety Review After Fatal Accident, Possible Prior Gun Incident & Camera Crew Walkout
Deadline ^ | 10/22/2021 | David Robb, Anthony D'Alessandro

Posted on 10/22/2021 3:17:28 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

The New Mexico set of the indie Western Rust, where cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was shot and killed Thursday by a prop gun “discharged” by star Alec Baldwin, had been having a myriad of issues, including problems related to safety, before the accident, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the situation. That included at least one previous incident involving a misfiring of a weapon that was used days before in a scene.

“A gun had two misfires in a closed cabin,” a source told Deadline. “They just fired loud pops – a person was just holding it in their hands and it went off.”

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Even before Rust went into production, a number of armorers turned down the gig citing concerns about the budget of the film and the sheer amount of firearms to be utilized, we hear.

(Excerpt) Read more at deadline.com ...


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To: lurk

Yahbur Bdwin’s gonna say he was set up.


41 posted on 10/22/2021 5:30:29 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: TigersEye
“A gun had two misfires in a closed cabin,” a source told Deadline. “They just fired loud pops – a person was just holding it in their hands and it went off.”

Two squibs—two bullets lodged in the barrel—then a real shot? That would send three projectiles—possibly accounting for the wounding.

42 posted on 10/22/2021 6:09:15 PM PDT by Does so (USA is run from 2446 Belmont Rd, NW, DC, (Kalorama). Why else the 9/11 deadline for Afghanistan?)
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To: Does so

The one that was fired by Baldwin probably was a blank. If there were two squibs lodged in the barrel they were propelled by the blank.

Some other posting mentioned people shooting live ammo through the gun previously.


43 posted on 10/22/2021 7:03:09 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart; Does so

Squibs are small explosives used to simulate the sound and look of bullets. The latter has “blood splatter” in it. They are not fired from guns of any kind they are placed on the actor or object that is supposed to be getting shot.


44 posted on 10/22/2021 7:45:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: Does so
“A gun had two misfires in a closed cabin,” a source told Deadline. “They just fired loud pops – a person was just holding it in their hands and it went off.”

According to the article that was a separate incident that happened days before Baldwin shot the cinematographer and the director.

45 posted on 10/22/2021 7:50:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: TigersEye

What you talkin’ about! That’s one of them-there semi automatic colt revolvers!

/sarc>

CC


46 posted on 10/22/2021 9:00:08 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Cold Heart; TigersEye
A "squib load" results in one or more bullets stuck in the barrel. I've seen a revolver barrel filled with reloaded squibs. When there was only one, we'd shoot them out with a factory round. Sometimes, the barrel would respond with a internal swollen spot. I don't think the bullets even touched each other!

The earlier "misfires" on the movie set could have been squib loads, and in trying to clear them, a good round had been loaded. The rest is history. Just a possibility, given the lack of investigation releases.

https://youtu.be/ff4jI-MSnmg

47 posted on 10/23/2021 12:26:03 AM PDT by Does so (USA is run from 2446 Belmont Rd, NW, DC, (Kalorama). Why else the 9/11 deadline for Afghanistan?)
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To: TigersEye

That will happen with a bad sear, although the hammer would have to be pulled back. I had it happen to me.

That’s why you never point a gun at anyone, and never stake your life on a mechanical device, even a safety.


48 posted on 10/23/2021 9:15:42 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: lurk

That’s why I suspect they were using dummy rounds, rather than blanks. I don’t think it’s as easy to tell a dummy round from a live round.


49 posted on 10/23/2021 9:18:23 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: marcusmaximus
As the producer Baldwin would still be responsible for safety violations even if he weren't the shooter. It sounds like the problem may have been systemic:

Even before Rust went into production, a number of armorers turned down the gig citing concerns about the budget of the film and the sheer amount of firearms to be utilized, we hear.

If true, that's pretty telling. Existing industry rules concerning firearms handling have been cited ad infinitum already and the mere fact that such accidents are so very rare is an indication of how strictly those rules are usually adhered to. This is sounding like the problem began at the top.

50 posted on 10/23/2021 9:32:05 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Does so
That guy is a moron, in more than one way. That is not what a squib is.

Squib

51 posted on 10/23/2021 2:45:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: TigersEye
This is my understanding of squib.

I didn't invent the term, and suspect it has a long history among armorers, reloaders, and forensic firearm examiners (like me, with 30 years in the biz).

Only one possible explanation for the fatality, as the weapon has yet to receive a thorough examination. (Which is very likely to be contentious!)

https://www.capitalcartridge.com/category-s/241.htm

52 posted on 10/24/2021 3:25:21 AM PDT by Does so (USA is run from 2446 Belmont Rd, NW, DC, (Kalorama). Why else the 9/11 deadline for Afghanistan?)
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