Posted on 10/19/2021 9:34:25 AM PDT by karpov
I remember reading a few years back about what was considered the world’s most sustainable village. It was in South America someplace. They showed a picture of a mud hut with a thatched roof and a dirty-faced raggedy-dressed kid standing in front of it. That is seen as a model by some.
When everything becomes electric you can be shut out of using your own property by central government controllers
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Yes, that’s their plan. Total CONTROL.
A better rating would be longevity and availability of parts. We used to make things that lasted for decades and when they broke, you could get replacement parts. Now it’s all short lived china junk that you can’t fix. Everything’s disposable but no one says anything about how GREEN that isn’t. By the time you buy something, china factories are belching smoke and fumes to make it’s replacement.
The air handlers of gas ‘furnaces’ run on 110V household current. A local generator will operate them. Large unit HVAC/Heat pumps? no. But gas heat, yes.
Voice of experience.
well we know what they're doing...its so obvious....
I guess we're just a bunch of numbskulls who wouldn't figure out that electricity is produced SOMEWHERE and its either coal,wood, nuclear or hydro....and same people want to tear out the dams....
they want us poorer, colder, more serf like .....they want us to be third worlders.
“Energy Star won’t recommend any gas appliances on its next ‘most efficient’ list”
If we could only develop appliances that used cow farts to heat and cook we could solve two problems at one time.
It doesn’t matter if it’s Socialism or Communism, the elite eat high on the hog and the proletariat eat out of their garbage cans ... just like in Venezuela.
I’d settle for efficiency.
How much water and energy needed to clean x number of pounds of clothes using a specific washer cycle for instance. Our washer AND dryer are brand name, Energy Star rated pains in my glutes.
My Energy Star fridge that we bought because we couldn’t remodel to fit in a bigger model has less room inside than the same size model it replaced and is another PITA.
AAAAAARGH.
And they won’t be changing the tiered measuring amounts for the better. Instead of you being in 1 or 2 you will now be in the 3 and 4 tiered amounts.
The best Energy Star dish washer would be an empty cardboard box. Put your dishes in and wait two hours. The dishes won't get clean, but the box will use no water and no electricity.
Good to know that management at Energy Star doesn't follow science.
Guess it’s back to the wood-burning stove.
They are fairly low amperage too, so even a fairly small generator would run an average furnace.
With everything going electric it would seem important to have a gas generator if the power goes out, but there is a movement to ban gas generators. Maybe some naive greenie here could advise on that problem.
I always buy gas when possibly. Super efficient 👍🏻
Gas appliances are much more efficient than electric. Everybody knows that.
I got some recipes passed down from my mother. Part of the recipe was what type of wood to use for the stove and how long to let it burn before starting to cook.
Unintended consequence: use home solar, deny them any control over your power use.
DA FUQ CARES??
Nobody with a functional brain in their skull ever REALLY gave a tinker’s dam about that crap, anyway.
You shopped, and you bought basis needed features, and if this model comes with ohh-ahh features, that’s just icing on the cake.
I have not ever bought or not bought anything, EVER, basis the presence or absence of anything EnergyStar-related.
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