Posted on 10/16/2021 8:17:25 AM PDT by fireman15
Microsoft recently announced Windows 11 and revealed the system requirements necessary to formally install the new operating system using Windows Update, media creation tools, and update assistants. According to Microsoft's supporting documents and the spokesperson's statement, the device must have a newer processor, TPM 2.0 encryption chip, and SecureBoot enabled to fully run the operating system.
Microsoft is considering reducing processor requirements for computers running Windows 11
TPM 2.0 has been included in many devices shipped in the past few years, but it is disabled by default. Users can enable TPM 2.0 in the BIOS, or bypass this restriction by modifying the registry or installation media.
Simply put, if you have a device that was shipped before 2017, your device is most likely not eligible for the Windows 11 upgrade. Microsoft has confirmed that users can only upgrade if they have Intel's eighth-generation Core chips or newer models. For AMDPC, at least Ryzen 2000 is required.
However, if you have a seventh-generation chip, even if it can still run Windows 10 and applications/games smoothly, Windows 11 will not be supported on your device.
According to Microsoft, the reason for blocking the old CPU is that the functions of Windows 11 are most suitable for new hardware. Although manual modification of the installation media can allow the new system to be installed on the old chip, the official does not recommend this because the performance or experience may be lower. standard.
The chipset requirements are based on the "heap factor". Due to factors such as performance, capacity, quality, and reliability, Microsoft has apparently abandoned support for seventh-generation and older processors. This is to "ensure that everyone has a good experience," wrote Microsoft's project manager Steve Dissensa.
Microsoft is considering reducing processor requirements forcomputers running Windows 11
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They want TPM because it takes control away from the user. It makes you identifiable. It gives them control over what you are allowed to run or not run. It de-anonimizes the net. It most certainly has NSA back doors. It black boxes critical functions. It is part of the “Great Reset.”
Essentially you are giving up the keys to your car. The only way to start it is to say “Alexa, start the Microsoft car they are being kind enough to allow me to pay for using, pretty please, and MS uber alles.”
There is a place for TPM in the corporate environment. There is a place for TPM on critical systems. There is a place for TPM. That is not what they are doing. This is nothing short of a power grab of capable systems and all future systems. Wait until MS and Intuit get in a pissing match and QuickBooks or TurboTax quit updating like Apple did with Fortnite.
That is also the least of my concerns with 11 and what a TPM requirement will allow them to do.
Times change, and things change with them - in retirement I find my own technical needs no longer require a Win OS and the games I used to enjoy beta testing are dwindling in production to the point where I can do without because I'm going to have to. And I have a couple of Linux boxes that are quickly becoming my go-to's due to that. Maybe this is time for the complete break.
“With everything going up at least 20% and paying $4.89/gal for gasoline, whose going out to buy new computers to run WIN11?”
Well, even with the child tax credits arriving in the mailbox monthly and the stimulus checks uncashed, not me. Going to buy a ducktail spoiler for the car instead.
Do they give out computers in hell?
Here’s your new machine & Microsoft software, Mr. Gates.
Is it Internet-ready?
Not that I’m aware of.
Any recommendations on the best Linux version for battery life? I have Mint and it’s about half the battery life as Win 10. I can get 11-12 hours with Win 10 on my Huawei Mate D laptop, and with mint i get about 5-6 hours, with the same hardware, on a dual boot separate partition.
You actually have no arguments from me. “Security” like safety in general is used as an excuse for almost everything bad that authorities impose these days. Most of it is a dog and pony show to convince people they need the latest and the greatest.
You are absolutely right. The problem I have are my hobbies. I have been using photoshop since the first version that was released for Windows. There are no alternatives in Linux that have the same versatility for me. I have been using a 3D Printer for several years... no design applications in Linux that are as versatile for designing objects to print that would not require a steep learning curve. Video editing... same issue. And a lot more. Linux is fine for surfing the web, creating emails, basic picture editing, and creating plane Jane documents. It is the other stuff...
What a brilliant move and the timing during a chip shortage just shows MS is always on the cutting edge of stupidity.
Hello.
I only deal with desktops, but I would think any lightweight distribution would suffice. Maybe Lubuntu, Linux Lite or Ubuntu Mate.
I have used all of these and all are good.
“so I switched from Windows 7 to Linux Mint. Best decision ever.”
Yep... All this ignorant MS garbage is long gone. What a ball and chain removed for me.
“I’ll help you if you like.”
Same here, good on you. I have helped quite few from here make the switch. Linux folks are like that. :)
I put Mint 18.3 on a 20 year old Emachine with only 1 gig of RAM a few years back. It actually make a decent web surfing machine.
It’s pretty incredible that M$ has been so horribly infested by bloat that it can’t even run on an I7.
Thank God we actually have alternatives to the dreck from redmond.
The first problem we want to point out is one that is well documented. In Windows 11, File Explorer suffers from a memory leak. What this means is that even if you open and then close the File Explorer app, it will still consume your system RAM in the background. In our tests, File Explorer consumed 80MB of memory, and when we opened 50 windows, memory usage jumped to 640MB. Even after closing the windows and waiting for a couple of hours, File Explorer was still eating up about 420MB of memory.
There are still some people who are reporting performance issues with the new operating system. These, too, have been well-documented, and it’s why this lands at number two on our list. The best example of the performance issue involves Windows 11 systems with AMD processors. On October 6, AMD posted a notice warning of performance drops on AMD processors of up to 15%,
The biggest controversy with Windows 11 relates to the systems it is compatible with. By now, you probably know that the new OS only works on systems with an Intel 8th-generation or newer processor or AMD Ryzen 2000 series or newer...Microsoft still recommends that it’s best to meet system requirements to run Windows 11, but it does provide a workaround for incompatible systems.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/5-biggest-problems-with-windows-11-right-now/
Thanks for the link. It is a good summary of where we are at now with Windows 11. It mentioned the “work-around” used to install Windows 11 on a computer without a supported processor by downloading the appropriate ISO file from Microsoft and installing it the “old fashioned” way.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
There is a related way to tweak this method using “Rufus” a free tool to create bootable USB Drives that allows you to further turn off system requirements such as that annoying TPM issue that has some here very irritated along with processors like mine that didn’t quite make the cut.
https://www.pcgamer.com/updated-burning-tool-makes-it-easy-to-ignore-windows-11-system-requirements/
Overall Windows 11 is more trouble than it is worth at this time for me to use as my primary operating system. But it is always fun to work with something new.
I tried installing in a Oracle virtual window but it says my pc does not meet the minimum requirements. I am waiting on a tpm module I ordered for my 6 year old pc motherboard to see if this will be the fix.
I do not often recommend videos for info, or typically give much credence to typical conspiratorial fear mongering, yet here is a very informative vid about a viable means of security yet potential means of censorship. Could TC be used to prevent computer communication of politically incorrect speech as You Tube is reported as doing and and could do such as under its terms (even using biological terms, subjectively defined as "hate")?
Even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing informs,
TC is controversial as the hardware is not only secured for its owner, but also secured against its owner. Such controversy has led opponents of trusted computing, such as free software activist Richard Stallman, to refer to it instead as treacherous computing,[3] even to the point where some scholarly articles have begun to place scare quotes around "trusted computing".[4][5] Chip manufacturers Intel and AMD, hardware manufacturers such as HP and Dell, and operating system providers such as Microsoft include Trusted Computing in their products if enabled.[10][11]... Cryptographer Ross Anderson, University of Cambridge, has great concerns that:[9]
"TC can support remote censorship [...] In general, digital objects created using TC systems remain under the control of their creators, rather than under the control of the person who owns the machine on which they happen to be stored." "The fundamental issue is that whoever controls the TC infrastructure will acquire a huge amount of power. Having this single point of control is like making everyone use the same bank, or the same accountant, or the same lawyer. There are many ways in which this power could be abused."
The potential is enough to be wary of its future implications as regards free speech as increasing being curtailed in the interests of political correctness. In the future I expect that beginning with online banking and then online shopping, the use of a TC computer will be required. And the equipment and even ID of the typical vocal FReeper could be marked as untrusted.
“here is a very informative vid....”
Oops: forgot the link to the video in the above post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZnR_qrJQSY
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