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John Hopkins Medical Prof Explains: Natural COVID Immunity Is Very Strong
thepulse.one ^ | OCTOBER 15, 2021 | ARJUN WALIA

Posted on 10/15/2021 10:36:39 PM PDT by ransomnote

IN BRIEF

Approximately twenty studies have now emerged regarding natural immunity to COVID. All of them point to the fact that natural immunity acquired through a COVID infection can be quite robust. Emphasizing this may seem like a broken record to many independent media journalists, but it’s important to continue to do so given the fact that science continues to go ignored by governments around the world. It doesn’t make sense why natural immunity is not included in health policy decisions.

This point has been emphasized by many experts in the field, including Marty Makary, a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, editor-in-chief of Medpage Today. Last month he published an article in the Washington Post explaining the following:

More than 15 studies have demonstrated the power of immunity acquired by previously having the virus. A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated. This affirmed a June Cleveland Clinic study of health-care workers (who are often exposed to the virus), in which none who had previously tested positive for the coronavirus got reinfected. The study authors concluded that “individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from covid-19 vaccination.” And in May, a Washington University study found that even a mild covid infection resulted in long-lasting immunity.

There is even science that has emerged showing that people who have been infected with previous coronaviruses, many of which are the common cold and flu, may also have some sort of protection from severe disease, death and infection. A study published in March 2021 suggests that the majority of healthy adults in British Columbia, Canada, have immunity from COVID-19 despite the fact that some of them have never been infected with it.

The latest study published in Clinical Infectious Diseases found that “SARS-CoV-2-specific cellular and humoral immunities are durable at least until one year after disease onset.” In the future, more studies will emerge that may show longer lasting immunity. The study cut off in this example was one year, but what will happen when they do the same type of study two years after infection? Will we see the same thing?

 People who have been infected with SARS, for example, still have a strong a level of antibodies approximately 17 years after being infected.

It’s not just antibodies that provide protection either, alongside antibodies, the immune system produces a battalion of T cells that can target viruses. Some of these, known as killer T cells (or CD8+ T cells), seek out and destroy cells that are infected with the virus. Others, called helper T cells (or CD4+ T cells) are important for various immune functions, including stimulating the production of antibodies and killer T cells.

The science behind natural immunity is quite robust, and if you’d like to see more examples you can do so from an article I previously published in August that goes even more in-depth.

Here’s another great resource from Eric T. Payne, MD, MPH, FRCP(C), Pediatric Neurocritical, Care & Epilepsy Alberta Children’s Hospital, Assistant Professor of Pediatrics & Neurology, the University of Calgary that also touches upon natural immunity, among other things.

MORE GOOD INFORMATION AT THE LINK



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1 posted on 10/15/2021 10:36:39 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

since there are so many ‘breakthrough cases of covid’ in those who have been vaxxed- once they recover, will they have stronger natural covid immunity from there on out too? Or does the Vax nullify acquired immunity or resistance i should say?


2 posted on 10/15/2021 10:59:41 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
since there are so many ‘breakthrough cases of covid’ in those who have been vaxxed- once they recover, will they have stronger natural covid immunity from there on out too? Or does the Vax nullify acquired immunity or resistance i should say?

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Recall the CDC et. al. are saying 'protection' provided from the 'vaccines' is waning and boosters are required. Even one of the CDC named experts (I think he was with Pfizer) said that the 'shot' replaces the immune system with something more tightly focused/narrower. I'm quoting from memory.

Others have said that there's evidence that immune system is in decline among the vaxxed. You might want to check out this article/post:

Fractal Trader found a great article:

[UK] A comparison of official Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
The Expose (UK) ^ | 10 October 2021


3 posted on 10/15/2021 11:11:18 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

This guy is serious. Funny, he doesn’t understand the con game that’s going on. Everybody with a brain understands the importance of natural immunity.

The ruse currently being run by the media/Dems is simply to break the will of the holdouts, and make them kiss the ring.

The more people who kiss the ring the more Big Pharma makes the cash register go ka-ching for the media/Dems.

There is nothing else happening that hasn’t happened millions of times in the past.


4 posted on 10/15/2021 11:38:13 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: ransomnote

These Daze, this comes down to pretty much - DUH! .


5 posted on 10/15/2021 11:50:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: ransomnote
The last paragraph of H. G. Wells' "War of the Worlds" comes to mind concerning natural immunity...

"For so it had come about, as indeed I and many men might have foreseen had not terror and disaster blinded our minds. These germs of disease have taken toll of humanity since the beginning of things--taken toll of our prehuman ancestors since life began here. But by virtue of this natural selection of our kind we have developed resisting power; to no germs do we succumb without a struggle, and to many--those that cause putrefaction in dead matter, for instance--our living frames are altogether immune. But there are no bacteria in Mars, and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain."

6 posted on 10/15/2021 11:55:17 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (You are not a horse, you are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it.)
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To: ransomnote

Yep. And I have it.


7 posted on 10/16/2021 12:16:50 AM PDT by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: ransomnote

moderator please fix the title to read johns hopkins...

thanks

no need to endanger credibility at the very start...


8 posted on 10/16/2021 5:37:43 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something)
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To: Bob434
Speaking from personal experience to your question:

NO. The jab doesn't nullify naturally acquired immunity at all. In fact, if you've had the CHINA VIRUS (I did, in Feb. 2020) and you later get one of the jabs, your natural immunity got boosted.

I have personal experience on this one, I'm part of a control group that's studying this and I've written on this extensively over the past month or so.

The key is, you have to have had the CHINA VIRUS first and recovered, and then have gotten one of the jabs.

Here I'll also say that I *suspected* I had the CHINA VIRUS back in Feb. 2020, but that was only conjecture since it was very early on in the pandemic. A blood test confirmed my natural immunity about a month and a half ago. I see a specialist for a genetic condition I have that I have to manage carefully. When my specialist ordered the blood test he ordered an antibody test along with it. (Yes, the blood test can tell the difference between naturally acquired immunity vs. getting the jab.)

When I saw my specialist, he asked when I had the CHINA VIRUS. We backtracked to Feb. 2020 when I had the "worst flu of my life" and was down for a solid week with it. It took me several weeks to fully recover.

I got the J&J shot in April of this year, which boosted my natrual immunity. As of Sept. of this year, my natural antibodies were still very high, and my doctor recommended I not get a "booster" when the J&J shot is approved as I don't need it.

I'm part of a control group that follows natural immunity for people like me, who have Ankylosing Spondylitis and take Humira for it. Humira turns off the inflammation gene for Ankylosing Spondylitis and as a result it also prevents the CHINA VIRUS inflammation from taking hold in the lungs. The study I'm now in has shown that those taking Humira have a much lower death rate from the CHINA VIRUS than the general population. Thus my being in the control group study.

Finally, Fenofibrate (which I also take) is a cholesterol medication that also shows positive impacts against the CHINA VIRUS and there are studies on that as well.

So I have what my doctor calls "super immunity" having had the CHINA VIRUS, being on Humira and Fenofibrate.

I do not fear the CHINA VIRUS at all. :-)

9 posted on 10/16/2021 5:50:18 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Tha KS for the great reply. You mentioned humira, which I think is an immune system suppressor, right? I took 6 mp which also does that, and wow did I get lung problems from it. Ended up in emerge Cy room twice, suffered through 2 more times at home, plus some minor ones, and finally came off the stuff as it was causing boils and sores, and other nasty stuff. I couldn’t take the drug. I have an overactive immune system which attacks the body too, but also asthma, and flues that affect the lungs are especially hard on me.

Way back in the eginning of the pandemic, before they were even calling it a pandemic, in Feb of 2020, I got “The Crud”, and have had it several times since- same symptoms everytime, UT never any loss of smell or taste. Feverish, UT not high, massive chills, sweating, extreme exhaustion (just walking to kitchen woild wipe me out), shortness of breath, shaky, a d the other nasty stuff like,sinus, stomach upset, diarreah, etc- it woild last about a week or less each time.

I had in February, March, end of April, and again in May of 2020, and this year 2 times so far but not as bad.

I got tested 3 times and each time came back negative for covid. Since supposedly supposedly flu dissapeared for a year and half, I’d like to know what I had. We supposedly haven’t had many cases of covid around us, so not sure what I had. UT again, they couldn’t even distinguish guise flu from covid back awhile according to the cdc.

My thought on the issue for folks like me with overactive immunities already was, if our bodies are busy fighting off some other disease, will it be detrimental or beneficial in the fight against covid if we should get,it? Will the immune system be too busy already increasing the immune response to the disease, and not have enough umph for overreacting to covid? Or will it supercharge covid if we should get it?


10 posted on 10/16/2021 8:43:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: usconservative

Oh and kudos to being in the trial, your contribution is helping millions of folks, and hopefully you will truly be superimmune to the virus. They were talking in the begging about taking blood from people who survived civid and creating cocktail for folks as a preventative, don’t know if they are still pursuing that or not. Course I think that having an autoimmune disease disqualifies for donating b.ood, but maybe not.


11 posted on 10/16/2021 8:47:43 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
I'd have to be off Humira for 6 months before being able to donate blood and honestly, after the 3 weeks prior to getting the J&J shot and another 2 weeks after, having to be off Humira there's just no way I could do it. My inflammation and pain was through the roof.

I was lucky that I was able to keep my Ankylosing Spondylitis somewhat at bay becuase I was very physically active. Once that stopped, it hit me HARD. I'm also an outlier in that regard since most are diagnosed in their teens/early 20's. I made it to 45. :-) Always knew I was more sore than other people after activity when I was younger, just didn't know why.

12 posted on 10/16/2021 9:28:14 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Sent a pm


13 posted on 10/16/2021 10:05:42 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: teeman8r
teeman8r wrote:

moderator please fix the title to read johns hopkins...

thanks

no need to endanger credibility at the very start...

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ThankQ, teeman8r. There have been  many titles I have wanted to fix but i don't because Admin requires the use of the original title. That way, when people search for documents before posting a thread, they find a match. So it's not likely the mod with correct the error, AFAIK.

I have taken many arrows in the back for ridiculous title excesses and haven't been able to change it. I suppose I could have helped with sanity by putting (sic) at the end of the title? :D

14 posted on 10/16/2021 12:14:22 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

i tried... but being from baltimore...

but thanks ransomnote, for all you do... you are truly a blessing to this thread.

t


15 posted on 10/17/2021 7:57:24 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something)
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