Posted on 10/13/2021 8:45:26 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
I have no idea how this paper made it past the censors but there it is! This was published a month ago but didn’t receive much fanfare and now we know why—it confirms what we’ve been saying for months now: the vaccines have not stopped and likely will not stop the pandemic.
Back in July we tweeted that the CDC data mapping vax rates to COVID-19 case rates shows ZERO impact of the former on the latter:
Looks at this! I put together cases and vaccination data from the CDC. (Cases are per 100K left Y-axis | vaccinations are increasing % right Y-axis)
Cases drop by 75% or more for every age group BEFORE any group hits 20% vaccination. Something else is going on entirely here.
We’ve written in these pages multiple times about the same phenomenon. Yesterday, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford tweeted:
“There is a lot to learn from this graph, but most obviously, the COVID vax does not stop infection. The vax provides a private benefit (protection vs. severe disease), but limited public benefit (protection vs. disease spread). So what is the argument for mandates?”
Now this Harvard research notes:
At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.
When they got down to the U.S. county level the relation was even less discernible:
They conclude:
The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants
(Excerpt) Read more at covidreason.substack.com ...
So how would identifying them prevent severe disease and death, which was the premise of your question?
You want to mandate that the unvaccinated become vaccinated, when the unvaccinated are not sick, or showing signs of being sick.
No I don't, but I do understand that there's a rational argument for it and it's the same one used for seat belts.
Which was the original question, BTW.
Actually, all info from the vax makers says the same as Let’s go Brandon, “prevent COVID-19”.
https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04368728
https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/mRNA-1273-P301-Protocol.pdf
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04470427
Glad to see you’re finally admitting the “vaccines” don’t actually stop transmission. But this means they are by definition leaky vaccines. Leaky vaccines should never be administered during a pandemic because 1) they increase the likelihood and danger of mutations and 2) they prevent natural herd immunity from developing, which results in the pandemic lengthening.
This was all predicted by many top immunologists when the leaky vaccines were initially released. It was also predicted in the SPARS 2025 pandemic simulation exercise conducted by Johns Hopkins in 2017, which predicted governments and health institutions would fail to properly respond to the next coronavirus pandemic. Time for people to wake up and admit the actions that have so far been taken have only made the situation worse.
I just wanted to see how far you were willing to go with mandates.
The irrational argument about mandates over silly things like raincoats is that, for each mandate comes a mandate policeman. Each time we, as a society, creates another authority out of one of our neighbors, it demotes the status of each of us and promotes the status of the new authority over each of us. The latest mandate policeman is now apparently our bosses at work.
Another animal in the farm becomes more special than the rest.
-PJ
The problem is the unstated part of your equation—vaccine side effects.
They may be mild or strong. They may be short-lived or may not be fully realized for years.
It is the great unknown—but many of us do know real people will real severe side effects.
Harvard research has confirmed bugger all.
The stats are crap.
All of them.
The only things we know for certain are that bodies haven’t been piling up like cord wood, that Deep State has lied to us from the get go, and that CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.
No, I said if it was really a parallel with vaccination public health professionals would reasonably consider a mandate. To quote:
"If we had the evidence that raincoats were very effective in preventing severe disease and death we may well consider mandates."
Agree or not it's just reality that those people are going to reccommend measures to save lives.
It's what they do and it's rational.
If it doesn’t stop the spread then it’s a therapeutic not a vax. It won’t end the virus. Herd immunity will. That’s the issue with how it’s been packaged since it’s release.
Asterisks mine, with a NSFW for language.
CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.
“perhaps the disease was invented for the purpose of the vaccine....but I digress.”
You’re certainly not the first person to say this and, IIRC, some Fauci papers have been found that confirm that very thing.
Thank you for sending this guy to his room.
“If we had the evidence that raincoats were very effective in preventing severe disease and death we may well consider mandates.”
How about comparing apples to apples? Raincoats, seatbelts, etc., don’t invade your body doing who-knows-what. God and Fauci know, but we certainly don’t. You take off a raincoat and yours cells remain the same.
FReepers asked what the argument for mandates was. I provided one.
I don't think it's worth the liberty tradeoff but it's a legit argument.
Rats desperately need covid to run into the next election. And the next after that.
But if we knew that raincoats had a history of causing blood clots, heart attacks, destruction of your natural immune system, and a list of others as well as other devastating long term affects we don’t yet know, then would you mandate them? If the mandated raincoats cost thousands of dollars while there were cheap alternative raincoats available that kept you dry, would you mandate anyway?????????
Of course not, but the people pushing the vaccine mandates don't know that.
BTT
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