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Harvard Research Confirms What We've Been Saying for MonthsThere is not evidentiary correlation between cases and vaccination rates
Substack ^ | 13 October 2021 | Justin Hart

Posted on 10/13/2021 8:45:26 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

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To: Political Junkie Too
The unvaccinated are not unhealthy. They are not sick. They are not contagious.

So how would identifying them prevent severe disease and death, which was the premise of your question?

You want to mandate that the unvaccinated become vaccinated, when the unvaccinated are not sick, or showing signs of being sick.

No I don't, but I do understand that there's a rational argument for it and it's the same one used for seat belts.

Which was the original question, BTW.

41 posted on 10/14/2021 1:20:32 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: TTFX

Actually, all info from the vax makers says the same as Let’s go Brandon, “prevent COVID-19”.

https://cdn.pfizer.com/pfizercom/2020-11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020.pdf

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04368728

https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/mRNA-1273-P301-Protocol.pdf

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04470427


42 posted on 10/14/2021 1:49:48 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: gas_dr
The vaccine provides a private protection — vaccine vs severe disease

Glad to see you’re finally admitting the “vaccines” don’t actually stop transmission. But this means they are by definition leaky vaccines. Leaky vaccines should never be administered during a pandemic because 1) they increase the likelihood and danger of mutations and 2) they prevent natural herd immunity from developing, which results in the pandemic lengthening.

This was all predicted by many top immunologists when the leaky vaccines were initially released. It was also predicted in the SPARS 2025 pandemic simulation exercise conducted by Johns Hopkins in 2017, which predicted governments and health institutions would fail to properly respond to the next coronavirus pandemic. Time for people to wake up and admit the actions that have so far been taken have only made the situation worse.

43 posted on 10/14/2021 2:26:32 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: semimojo
No, the original question went off the rails when you agreed with my strawman that it was reasonable to mandate wearing raincoats if it kept sick people from inundating hospitals.

I just wanted to see how far you were willing to go with mandates.

The irrational argument about mandates over silly things like raincoats is that, for each mandate comes a mandate policeman. Each time we, as a society, creates another authority out of one of our neighbors, it demotes the status of each of us and promotes the status of the new authority over each of us. The latest mandate policeman is now apparently our bosses at work.

Another animal in the farm becomes more special than the rest.

-PJ

44 posted on 10/14/2021 2:43:41 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: gas_dr

The problem is the unstated part of your equation—vaccine side effects.

They may be mild or strong. They may be short-lived or may not be fully realized for years.

It is the great unknown—but many of us do know real people will real severe side effects.


45 posted on 10/14/2021 2:46:34 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Harvard research has confirmed bugger all.

The stats are crap.

All of them.

The only things we know for certain are that bodies haven’t been piling up like cord wood, that Deep State has lied to us from the get go, and that CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.


46 posted on 10/14/2021 2:54:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Political Junkie Too
...you agreed with my strawman that it was reasonable to mandate wearing raincoats if it kept sick people from inundating hospitals.

No, I said if it was really a parallel with vaccination public health professionals would reasonably consider a mandate. To quote:

"If we had the evidence that raincoats were very effective in preventing severe disease and death we may well consider mandates."

Agree or not it's just reality that those people are going to reccommend measures to save lives.

It's what they do and it's rational.

47 posted on 10/14/2021 3:50:38 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: gas_dr

If it doesn’t stop the spread then it’s a therapeutic not a vax. It won’t end the virus. Herd immunity will. That’s the issue with how it’s been packaged since it’s release.


48 posted on 10/14/2021 4:11:13 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: mewzilla
While I'm on the subject of crap stats, get a load of this one...

A truly heartbreaking story, hijacked by a narrative. These people don't give a ****. **** them. They are evil.

Asterisks mine, with a NSFW for language.

CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.

49 posted on 10/14/2021 4:16:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mewzilla
Related to the above...

WATCH: Sister of dead 14-year-old boy blasts AHS for labelling his death COVID-related “He died from Stage 4 brain cancer, not from covid. This is fake news,” said Spitzer in the post.

50 posted on 10/14/2021 4:20:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: MrRelevant
Here’s Why the Vaccines Aren’t Working A Primer on the COVID Vaccines by Ted Noel MD
51 posted on 10/14/2021 4:23:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: patriot torch

“perhaps the disease was invented for the purpose of the vaccine....but I digress.”

You’re certainly not the first person to say this and, IIRC, some Fauci papers have been found that confirm that very thing.


52 posted on 10/14/2021 4:25:44 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. )
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thank you for sending this guy to his room.


53 posted on 10/14/2021 4:27:43 AM PDT by TheRake (If they can force you to wear a mask, they can force you to do other things. Just the beginning.)
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To: semimojo

“If we had the evidence that raincoats were very effective in preventing severe disease and death we may well consider mandates.”

How about comparing apples to apples? Raincoats, seatbelts, etc., don’t invade your body doing who-knows-what. God and Fauci know, but we certainly don’t. You take off a raincoat and yours cells remain the same.


54 posted on 10/14/2021 4:33:22 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. )
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To: MayflowerMadam
How about comparing apples to apples?

FReepers asked what the argument for mandates was. I provided one.

I don't think it's worth the liberty tradeoff but it's a legit argument.

55 posted on 10/14/2021 4:42:07 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Nateman

Rats desperately need covid to run into the next election. And the next after that.


56 posted on 10/14/2021 4:43:39 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: semimojo
” If we had the evidence that raincoats were very effective in preventing severe disease and death we may well consider mandates. ”

But if we knew that raincoats had a history of causing blood clots, heart attacks, destruction of your natural immune system, and a list of others as well as other devastating long term affects we don’t yet know, then would you mandate them? If the mandated raincoats cost thousands of dollars while there were cheap alternative raincoats available that kept you dry, would you mandate anyway?????????

57 posted on 10/14/2021 5:39:16 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
But if we knew that raincoats had a history of causing blood clots, heart attacks, destruction of your natural immune system, and a list of others as well as other devastating long term affects we don’t yet know, then would you mandate them?

Of course not, but the people pushing the vaccine mandates don't know that.

58 posted on 10/14/2021 5:48:38 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Fractal Trader

BTT


59 posted on 10/14/2021 6:18:47 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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