Posted on 10/12/2021 3:30:33 PM PDT by absalom01
The battle rages on between point shooters and those who rely on sighted fire. Is there a true winner in that contest? What are the pros and cons of each and which parts of each, if any, are utilized by professional lead slingers who carry a gun for food?
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Rather than spend valuable time arguing one side or the other, I'll ask a different question: How can we take the best that both sides have to offer and use it to become a better shooter?
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Instead of looking at it as two sides of a separate argument, what if you were to further develop your shooting skills by learning how to make better alignment by feel (allow your body to teach you) and then if needed—based on technicality of the shot—utilize additional muzzle-target orientation refinement?
The purpose of shooting is to hit the intended target. To shoot well is to hit the target with optimal control resulting in a measurable balance of speed and accuracy. Whether you accomplish this task using point shooting, sighted fire, or a combination of the two is not a matter of argument, but a matter of practical application.
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Train on both methods for different situations. You need different tools for different jobs.
Point shooting: "3 yards, 3 seconds, 3 shots". (90% of the time)
Sighted shooting: "25+ yards" (When you care to send the very best)
That click bait has been hashed out for decades.
If you’re not visually confirming the sights are on the target, you’re irresponsible.
I know that it’s against forum rules, but I clicked through to the article and found this:
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So there it is.
That’s the author’s point.
Wrong thread...derp!
“If you’re not visually confirming the sights are on the target, you’re irresponsible.”
I started plinking about 70 years ago. Call me irresponsible.
When you practice enough, you subconsciously aim your handgun for lightning fast shots. I shot around 10K rounds thru my Chief’s Special. Now I’m not saying it takes that many rounds to be proficient instinctively, but with practice, aiming becomes natural to you. Just like using sling shots, arrows, rocks and spears. I still depend on sights for long shots or when I have the time. Historically, the first handguns did not have any sights.
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In an encounter at arms-length, or closer, the priority becomes getting some rounds into him before he can stick you.
As with so many things, Jeff Cooper was way ahead of his time when he articulated his idea about the “flash sight picture”. He didn’t like point shooting (to put it mildly), but realized that a defensive shooting situation also did not allow a leisurely process to acquire a perfect sight picture.
Aside from trick shooters, cowboy action shooters, and others who spend serious time practicing have demonstrated that point shooting “works”, at least under controlled circumstances.
But getting even a crude sight picture at close distances really is the most practical solution. After all, every bullet you fire has your name tattooed on it, and you’re accountable for whatever damage it may do.
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train for both coach.
As they were taking his gun he got it back and point shot both perps then sight shot the 2nd perp in the forehead. Killed them both in about 2 seconds.
Pointing has its place.
I have never found myself having leisure time in a firefight. Still, putting the reticle/dot/ front sight post in a threat had to be done, deliberately and quickly.
I believe that most folks who practice with guns have never and likely will never (hopefully) have to use one for real.
Finding waldo and your sight reference point quickly is a tedious but needful thing to be done. Be assured, if you don’t find both relatively quickly, he may just find you, even if he and his method of fire is spray and pray.
While not scriptural, the adage of “God helps those who find their front sight” really is truth.
Certainly muscle memory and psycho- motor skills can make it appear that a person isn’t using his sights, but those who go down the dark paths know better.
Yes, I know also that I can remove my sights and still hit at reasonablecrange. But I can do so much better faster and more precisely with at least a front sight post.
Sigh, age now demands I use optics as my presbyopia makes it nearly impossible to focus on a post at arms length. I still rely on a tall post to assist in acquiring the dot, but that may just a factor related to the secobd paragraph above- training and magic stuff tgst happens between the ears and fingertips....
Shoot straight, then fast.
It’s all about intersections, intersections of vectors. If you fire while swinging and follow through does the path of the projectile only acquires the tangential velocity at the end of the barrel or does the projectiles lateral velocity increase with distance from the muzzle? If so could you swing the gun fast enough to shoot around a corner.
Just thinking which is what shooters do.
Agreed. My arms are too short now too.
Sigh.
“If so could you swing the gun fast enough to shoot around a corner.”
Nope.
“If you’re not visually confirming the sights are on the target, you’re irresponsible.”
If you are four or five feet away and lining up sights on target, you are poorly trained, slow, and probably likely to lose.
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