We're going to need more walls.
Posted on 10/02/2021 7:55:51 AM PDT by Enlightened1
A shocking new poll from the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia reveals that over half of Trump voters surveyed, and 41% of Biden voters, are in favor of blue and/or red states seceding from the union. Yeah, it’s gotten that bad.
The idea that the nation’s political divide has become so toxic that we should prepare from some sort of “national divorce” has largely been left to clever thought experiments best left for dinner parties and ironically detached columns. However, we’ve now arrived at a point where more than half of Trump voters “somewhat agree” that the time for secession is nigh.
From the Center for Politics report:
Significant numbers of both Trump and Biden voters show a willingness to consider violating democratic tendencies and norms if needed to serve their priorities. Roughly 2 in 10 Trump and Biden voters strongly agree it would be better if a “President could take needed actions without being constrained by Congress or courts,” and roughly 4 in 10 (41%) of Biden and half (52%) of Trump voters at least somewhat agree that it’s time to split the country, favoring blue/red states seceding from the union.
The report continues by examining the broad political dissolution felt by members of both parties (emphasis mine.):
— On one hand, roughly 80% of Trump and Biden voters view democracy as preferable to any non-democratic kind of government.
— On the other hand, more than 6 in 10 Trump and Biden voters see America as less a representative democracy and more a system that is run by and rigged for the benefit of the wealthy.
— Overall, more than two-thirds support — and one-third strongly — emboldening and empowering strong leaders and taking the law into their own hands when it comes to dealing with people or groups they view as dangerous.
— And their willingness to consider violating democratic tendencies and norms extends beyond the hypothetical and to a dangerous and alarming finding: Roughly 2 in 10 Trump and Biden voters — or more than 31 million Americans — strongly agree it would be better if a “President could take needed actions without being constrained by Congress or courts” (as extrapolated from the results of this survey). Roughly 4 in 10 (41%) of Biden and half (52%) of Trump voters at least somewhat agree that it’s time to split the country, favoring blue/red states seceding from the union.
A shocking YouGov poll in June found that 66% of Republicans in southern states want to secede from the United States. That survey, which was done in conjunction with BrightLineWatch, looked at the current political climate in America. The most stunning question concerned support or opposition for the state in which respondents lived in “seceding from the United States to join a new union with [list of states in new union]?”
President Joe Biden largely ran on a platform of reunification, and despite an effective six first months of largely positive approval ratings, recent missteps in Afghanistan, and a resurgence of Covid infections, which is — ironically, largely due to a large percentage of Trump supporters refusal to get a vaccine — have led to his approval being underwater.
YES.
“...we should extend the invitation to counties in Canada and Mexico as well.”
No friggin’ way!! Unless you are building a sacrificial buffer zone!
Note that those counties surrounded by red, can easily be consumed by the red!! Just bus out the blue scum after “piercing the cell wall”!
Why is this a shock? Anyone who understands how our government is suspense to work and has a fundamental understand of right and wrong sees the problem.
I think if we just have a referendum once every 10 years as part of the census [for about 5 decades or so] and continue to invite those blue-city islands into our country, they will eventually coalesce into red, except on the coasts.
If they WANT to be part of our republic, they are welcome to it. America-first Americanism with English as the required language, that kind of thing. The main reason people immigrate here is to get access to other people’s money. Once that’s cut off to blue shiitehole counties, the whole thing will dry up like a desert lilypad.
You understand how I think.
Here’s sumthin to add to it. Remember Trump said we should buy Greenland? Well, if enough counties in Canada and Mexico join us, so will Greenland. AND parts of Siberia. We’d be the argest country in the world. Free. Plenty of land to open up those desperate immigrants to, have another Homestead Act. Easily outmaneuver the Russians and Chinese on their own back yard.
That’s right. Not ONE state is willing to forfeit federal financial AID.
NOT ONE.
In the land of the Declaration of Independence, the bankrupt and mostly unconstitutional feds have deliberately created at least the mentality financial dependency.
To be the land of the free we MUST once again be the home of the brave.
collapse fedgov and let the states figure it out ...
We’d move to first state that did.
The fight will be at the precinct up to the county level. Then counties will decide if they want to stay in a state or join another state.
county by county basis
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4000029/posts?page=95#95
We re also in favor of running the rats out of the country om a rail.
It granted the states broad authority to deal with everything else. This is why governors like Cuomo, Murphy and Wolf were able to force covid patients into nursing homes while basically ignoring the alternate facilities such as the Javits Center and hospital ships that the federal government provided out of fear they might make a former president look good. And while that didn't work out so well for their states, it did allow others such as Florida, South Dakota, Arkansas and others to experiment with far more humane covid policies.
Which, by the way, also turned out to be way more effective as well.
Aye!
The Second Coming
BY WILLIAM BUTLER YEATS
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Source: The Collected Poems of W. B. Yeats (1989)
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