Posted on 09/27/2021 12:01:06 PM PDT by Red Badger
I don't know what was their greatest sin. (Although I agree that Our Lord made plain that offenses against charity--which cover a wide range of bad actions--is the grandaddy of all sin.) We just know that sodomy was enough, and was the matter at hand.
Before this, you had Abraham bargaining God down, saying, "Lord, what if I find TEN just men--then will you then spare the city?" It is then that the narrator recounts with apparent emphasis how the men of Sodom repeatedly demanded that Lot introduce them to those men, who were actually messengers from God (angels), "that we may know them." The Sodomites use that same verb every time as the group grows larger and larger, threatening Lot for holding the door against them--finally surrounding the house until every male in the city is among them, and Lot is entreating them not to "act so wickedly"--and offering them two young girls instead. They refuse that offer, furious that this "sojourner" would "play the judge" with them and roaring, "Stand back!"
That's when the angels pull Lot inside the house with them, hold the door themselves with no apparent effort and strike all the besiegers blind.
That's what makes it plain which meaning of the word "know" the narrator is intending--it's not an ordinary howdy-do--and that not even one man in Sodom was innocent of it. And that it was enough to merit what followed.
That it was before the unveiling of the Big 10 is not material here. Murder was recognized as a sin (Thanks, Cain!) long before the Ten Commandments, so it's not a shocker that sodomy was also. It is plainly stealing and corrupting a mystery given to us by God.
God is not a “Giant Space Rock.”
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God can and will use any means that He wishes, including burning bushes, talking donkeys, floods, rainbows,or space rocks to communicate. He is still in control and is not limited in methods He use.
1600 BC is right around the time of the Bronze Age Collapse. I’m surprised that the Egyptians didn’t make a record of it.
Oops, I stand corrected. The Bronze Age Collapse wasn’t for another 400 years. I’m still surprised that the Egyptians hadn’t made a record of it. They’re usually meticulous about such things.
That’s what I was thinking.
A giant space rock, because G-d said.
Reminds me of when I Japanese friend was trying to translate his Japanese to English.. He said “Head Panic!”.
I LoL’ed and told him that would be a great name for a Japanese band..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeboim_(Hebrew_Bible)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoara
[snip] During the Crusader period it took the name of Palmer, or of Paumier. William of Tyre (XXII, 30) and Fulcher of Chartres (Hist. hierosol., V) have left descriptions of it, as well as the Arabian geographers, who highly praise the sweetness of its dates.[6] It is not known when the city disappeared;[11]
According to the 14th century travelogue The Travels Of Sir John Mandeville:
“Zoar, by the prayer of Lot, was saved and kept a great while, for it was set upon a hill; and yet sheweth thereof some part above the water, and men may see the walls when it is fair weather and clear.”[13] [/snip]
[’Civ note: Search for Sodom & Gomorrah, True Adventure Dead Sea-w/Photos by Ralph E Baney was researched in the 1950s, and the dives were in the much more shallow southern basin, where he found at least one “genie bottle” shaped underground structure (by accident, it gave him quite a scare).]
Biblical Problems with Identifying Tall el-Hammam as Sodom
Simon Turpin
https://answersresearchjournal.org/identifying-tall-el-hammam-sodom/
https://assets.answersingenesis.org/doc/articles/pdf-versions/arj/v14/tall-el-hammam_sodom.pdf
And folks try to claim that a planet is not missing from orbit and our system. That animation is pretty much tell all, pretty obvious for even a fourth grader. It was destroyed and these are all that is left. They also claim not enough combined mass there, most probably went out away from the suns gravity and our solar system.
The people reporting what was found are not acknowledging God had anything to do with it
Instead they INFER as in GUESS it was some sort of Blob from Space.
The material found is fact.
The “Space Rock” is a “story”, an “inference”, an exercise in “speculation.”
The problem is people are led to believe the “story” is somehow a “fact.”
An honest report would describe the elements found, the location where found, and leave out the “Space Rock” part. The report might describe the biblical account and call it interesting. “Isn’t that interesting?”
If asked by the readers HOW did it happen? An honest answer would be THE HOW IS UNKNOWN. But because so many today are know-it-alls, the jerk reaction is to pull it out of the butt and sensationalize it.
I watched his show once. Hilarious.
Great post, great comments, Rashi and SMOD, and yes it is valid and makes sense. FR is the greatest spot on the internet, just ❤️ you guys!
D.C. ..........................
Or has already fallen into the Sun and other planets, like Jupiter et al...............
Maybe they did.........................
Thanks Red B! Interesting article.
Yep... That visual is hard to argue with. I’m sure you have read Sitchin’s studies about the metaphorical ancient Sumerian account of this happening as Marduk impacting Tiamat. Ancient knowledge passed down to the Sumerians?
https://www.sitchinstudies.com/sumerian-solar-system.html
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