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Watch out, NIMBYs. Newsom just dumped single-family zoning
Los Angeles Time (Yahoo! News) ^ | 9/17/21

Posted on 09/18/2021 10:34:33 AM PDT by millenial4freedom

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To: moonhawk
just outside the Berzerkley city limits.

I know which one you are talking about - actually, there are several. All disgusting. Worse than anything I've seen around Los Angeles - and it is absolutely terrible here in LA.

I have family in Berkeley and believe it or not those homeless encampments have been reduced in size.

61 posted on 09/18/2021 11:51:38 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: chopperk

Do you live in California or just enjoy making stuff up?


62 posted on 09/18/2021 11:52:18 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Extremely easy SaxxonWoods, just shut down the thirsty farms.


63 posted on 09/18/2021 11:52:49 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I live in a suburb in WA state, during Obama years, a few apartments were placed in single housing zones. Since then we have more crime, graffiti and a general trashy look to our city. More and more apartments are going up and it has destroyed this little town.


64 posted on 09/18/2021 11:53:00 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: WXRGina

When you can’t build out, you build up. Single family home fetsishists have plenty of other places to live.


65 posted on 09/18/2021 11:55:45 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: NWFree

Crowding them in like rats. Rats will kill each other if it gets too crowded, but not before they have voted and become dumboRATS. Then the left will be done with them.


66 posted on 09/18/2021 11:58:25 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: millenial4freedom

Because of knee jerk anti democrat and Newsome hate.

Zoning laws are fundamentally a government taking without compensation.

For the last 30-50 years zoning laws have contributed to urban sprawl eating up farm land as people move out to the edges trying to escape them.

They also prevent reasonable uses like widows converting their home into a boarding house so she can pay her damn property taxes or converting a garage or outbuilding into a “mother in law” suite or apartment to house semi-independent relatives or renters.

All of it has contributed to housing and rent inflation along with other really dumb liberal ideas that have really hurt the formation of young families to the point that our population growth is based on immigration rather than reproduction.

The liberals finally get a clue on one cause and conservatives have a cow.


67 posted on 09/18/2021 12:05:43 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: dragnet2
All those white lib-larvae believe that all other white people besides themselves deserve that fate. Imagine their surprise...

68 posted on 09/18/2021 12:08:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: NWFree

New dwellings have mandatory green energy. This is an attack on reliable fuels including natural gas.


69 posted on 09/18/2021 12:12:50 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: I am Richard Brandon

“Extremely easy SaxxonWoods, just shut down the thirsty farms.”

Already in short supply but go for it! I’m actually a supporter of the density idea for California because people who think this is going to work need to live with the consequences. People who wise up early will be able to get out with a whole skin. The dumber will linger, as in all nature.

Who was it that said, “If you can see another campfire at night while at your fire, it’s time to move.”?


70 posted on 09/18/2021 12:13:18 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: WXRGina

They get what they voted for.


71 posted on 09/18/2021 12:16:45 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: millenial4freedom

“Maybe I’m naïve, but isn’t this...good?”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/29/local-communities-oppose-joe-bidens-attempt-to-destroy-suburbs-with-federal-zoning-laws-in-reconciliation-package/


72 posted on 09/18/2021 12:19:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: millenial4freedom

it destroys suburbia and rural acreage property values

Consider a housing tract of single family homes in the 800K range. Now every 4th or 5th one is torn down and a low-income, high-turnover, two=level shoddy build 4plex is constructed and the front yard turned into concrete for parking. What happens to that neighborhood?

Consider a community of small farmers on a few acres. 10 units of low income are built 30 feet from a lifestock barn. Now consider that 9 of those 10 units have pitbulls or other dogs common to low-incomers that are not compatible with livestock. Or teens that have no respect for animals or neighbors. Or adults that party until 2am every weekend so the animals can’t rest. Guess what happens in the neighborhood?

There’s a reason for zoning. Newsom wants it destroyed for all but the most elite.


73 posted on 09/18/2021 12:21:51 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: discostu

Who cares about water? Just build outhouses.


74 posted on 09/18/2021 12:26:32 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: millenial4freedom

You think this is good?

I live in a really nice town in Silicon Valley all zoned single family detached (R1). The neighborhood is all 1/4 to 1/2 acre lots (mostly 1/3 acre). The area is spacious and beautiful.

This law allows rapacious developers to buy one of these single family homes, tear it down, build TWO replacement homes AND TWO “auxiliary dwelling units” on the same property. It is going to completely destroy the character of our town.

We worked extremely hard to live here. We scrimped, saved, skipped vacations, often went without, sacrificed, didn’t take extravagant vacations, and kept our nose to the grindstone. Now our beautiful town will be completely destroyed by this law so people who didn’t have the same work ethic can move into our neighborhood.

If I had wanted to live in a high-density area, I would have moved to one in the first place.

So please tell me again why this is good and why you think this is a “reasonable policy change.”

I cannot see how this is not a gross violation of the Fifth Amendment takings clause.


75 posted on 09/18/2021 12:27:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: millenial4freedom

Hey California voters. Sorry yet?


76 posted on 09/18/2021 12:29:21 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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To: millenial4freedom
Maybe I'm naïve, but isn't this...good? I question why Newsom would advance this seemingly reasonable policy change.

Reasonable??

Imagine living in a nice home in suburbia, quiet neighborhood, and suddenly on one side you have a duplex going up and the other side they're building a flipping 4 unit apartment building.

You know what's going to happen to the neighborhood right?

77 posted on 09/18/2021 12:36:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WXRGina
"NO, it's NOT good. It's a war on the suburbs."

Yea, all dim big green lawns are just racest.. You people wit dim second folws and dim second baths needs to move some people into dat.....

78 posted on 09/18/2021 12:39:21 PM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: millenial4freedom
Maybe I'm naïve, but isn't this...good?

You don't own and never plan to own a single family house, do you?

79 posted on 09/18/2021 12:41:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: irishjuggler
"zoning restrictions are essentially anti-free-market"

Zoning can be anti-free-market - it is the government dictating what can be built. But zoning historically has been developer driven - it is a product of the free market and a way to protect home values. The government saying you can't developer a single family home protected development is really what is anti-free market. As is changing the law out from under existing property owners.

80 posted on 09/18/2021 12:44:01 PM PDT by Wayne07
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