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Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies
Nature ^ | 09/09/2020 | Wen Shi Lee, Adam K. Wheatley, Brandon J. DeKosky

Posted on 09/18/2021 9:39:28 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Texas Fossil

well, I’d dispute they’re a reaction to the vaccine since the most dangerous strains originated where there was no vaccine or only home remedies, contrary to the fearprofiteers claim. For instance there’s a CA, TX, NYC strain but they fizzled in the face of vaccination with only Delta able to get thru. Also, with nursing homes in the US being first vaccinated, with unvaccinated workers, thaat would logically be the first place for variants created by vaccinated to catch hold in the unprotected workers, but we’re not seeing that - just good old delta and not even a stronger version.

I will agree for sure that the mRNA vaccine is not optimal but then again the MMR childhood vaccine is 88% or so and that’s considered ok. China tried the ‘inactive’ virus route and that bombed bigtime. JJ and AZ use the adenovirus route and that’s not as good as mRNA. So mRNA is what we’re stuck with until we can find something else or move beyond the vaccine - maybe like monoclonals only a 6 day pill treatment like an antibiotic? I’m trying to stay optimistic that this pandemic will burn out and not become a thing where we even need to vaccinate. If the recovered stay at 80% immune and the vaccinated get to 80% (which I think we are close thanks to the old folks), we’ve got a good chance of wiping it out.


21 posted on 09/18/2021 8:36:55 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
Your information sources and mine are worlds apart.

The solution will not come from the mRNA vaccines. First those using it don't want it to be over, they are using it to bring about their agenda.

The virus is man made. Fauci was/is involved.

Censorship is the enemy not the path to ending this virus. The Censorship is being boosted by Pure State Run Propaganda.


“For instance there's a CA, TX, NYC strain but they fizzled in the face of vaccination with only Delta able to get thru.”

I don't believe that is true. The virus simply mutated. The vaccination never stopped it.

Where are you getting that information?

22 posted on 09/19/2021 3:52:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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“But it can’t all be blamed on vaccinated “

I did not blame it all on the vaccinated. What I did do was not “excuse” the vaccinated just because they are vaccinated because we know (a) the vaccinated ARE getting reinfected and (b) the vaccinated are, when reinfected, becoming infectious to others.

“ADE is a non-issue right now”. We do not know that at this time. There has not been enough study yet on how ADE may be part of why the vaccinated are getting reinfected, and it is important to identify that, and the sooner the better. Waiting for further developments is a wrong delay for that research.


23 posted on 09/19/2021 8:55:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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