Posted on 09/14/2021 2:52:14 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
A preprint study from Israel examining an extensive amount of the country's medical data has found that natural exposure to SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19), provides significantly greater immunity to the virus than Pfizer-BioNTech's vaccine.
Researchers from Israel's Maccabi Healthcare Services, Samson Assuta Ashdod University Hospital, and Tel Aviv University used a retrospective cohort examination of an extensive centralized database of case data from Maccabi Health Services (MHS), which they described as "Israel’s second largest Health Maintenance Organization."
The study notes the MHS is one of the country's four national health funds (all citizens must join one of the four), has 2.5 million members, and amounts to 26 percent of the population.
The team examined "Anonymized Electronic Medical Records" from the MHS database between March 1, 2020 and Aug. 14, 2021 pertaining to COVID-19 in patients aged 16 or older, focusing on three groups:
People who had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine before Feb. 28, 2021, did not take the third booster injection by the end of the study period, and did not register a positive PCR test by June 1, 2021;
People with a positive PCR test before Feb. 28, 2021 but who had not accepted any doses of vaccine before the end of the study period;
and People with a positive PCR test before Feb. 28, 2021 who had also received a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine by May 25, 2021.
Researchers used the fully vaccinated group as their comparison/reference group and matched groups 2 and 3 to the comparison group on a 1:1 basis, adjusting for age, sex, socioeconomic status, and time of infection or vaccination.
This method produced three models based on 673,676 eligible MHS members, with 62,883 unvaccinated and previously infected individuals...
(Excerpt) Read more at visiontimeswest.com ...
Israel is the only one telling the truth.
“ Yes. But a certain number of people die while achieving “natural immunity” so that’s the problem
So maybe it’s best to get vaccinated and either have a mild case or none at all and have both natural and vaccine immunity”
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I’ve been trying to do that… apparently unsuccessfully. I got the Moderna vaccine doses in March and have since tried repeatedly to expose myself to COVID-19 but, based upon several PCR tests when I felt tired, haven’t succeeded. I even tried to hang out near sick looking people in our local emergency room in hopes I’d pick up a bug from their coughs. Failed!
Maybe I should have take the Pfizer vaccine instead.;-)
This document does not square with what is happening in Israel. For example the following news report states the following:
Israel’s 17% Unvaccinated Now Account for 65% of All Serious COVID-19 Cases
For every death of an Israeli over 60 that had received the booster shot, there are roughly 15 deaths of unvaccinated Israelis in the same age group
This statistic has to be measured to the report a few weeks ago that stated those over 60 don’t have the vaccine because they were determined to be at too high risk to take the vaccine in the first place. It’s strange that this virus is the socialist worlds dream come true fantasy. Killing off older unproductive people who are a drain on the system. This is what they always wanted and they don’t have to be so open about it calling it euthanasia.
My condolences… 😊
All models reflect protection equal to that claimed by the mfgrs for hospitalization/death but falls from 90 to 84% for protection against asymptomatic infection with Pfitzer:
Model 1* - vaccinated asymptomatic infection 15.7% = 84% efficacy against infection
Model 2** - vaccinated asymptomatic infection 1.4% = 98.6% efficacy against infection and 98.1% against symptomatic infection
Evidence of waning natural immunization from 13.6-fold to 5.6fold uninfected by end of study, and, “ Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection “
Throughout the models there is a disclosure that over 60’s skewed the results but no percentages are attributed to them. Since CCPVirus is most dangerous to those over 60, I’d like to see the elderly broken out.
Model 1* asymptomatic - vaccinated asymptomatic infection 14.7%; unvaccinated asymptomatic reinfection 0.12%.
Apart from age ≥60 years, there was no statistical evidence that any of the assessed comorbidities significantly affected the risk of an infection
Model 2** symptomatic vaccinated 1.1%; symptomatic unvaccinated 0.15%; nonsymptomatic vaccinated reinfection 1.4% nonsymptomatic unvaccinated reinfection 0.24%
Being 60 years of age or older significantly increased the risk of COVID-19-related hospitalizations
Model 3 asymptomatic unvaccinated reinfection rate 0.26%; asymptomatic infected plus vaccine reinfection rate 0.14%; symptomatic unvaccinated - 0.16% symptomatic prior infection plus vaccine booster - 0.11%
Haaretz.com is the equivalent to MSNBC in the US. If you believe Rachel Maddow, you will believe Haaretz.
What?
for both models, number of asymptomatic or symptomatic of each defined category, divided by the number in group equals a percentage.
example:
Model 1 has 16,215 in each group. 238 ‘breakthroughs’ = 238/16,215 = 1.47% , etc.
you’d also need the actual study to glean the numbers, and that study is here
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf
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This is a good case for why getting vaccinated - at least soon after having an actual infection - is useless and counterproductive. But this continued argument that getting an infection is more effective at preventing a first infection - is a breathtakingly stupid argument - and it appears those who keep making it are oblivious to this fact.
That is but one article stating facts released by the authorities. All you do is continue to try to provide misleading information that gets and will get people hurt.
My 26 year old son was close to being put on a ventilator. After 8 days in the hospital he is out. It was/is frustrating with all of the various information out there. When he was being released the doctor said “After two weeks go get vaccinated! You don’t want to have to go through this again!!”
From what I have read, getting Covid gives a much stronger resistance to getting it again.
One of my prayers for my son’s healing included the following:
“Our abilities, our medicines, our knowledge is weak and confused. But You are not.”
All of that said - the doctor’s (with God’s help) did help to bring him back from the brink.
We place our faith in miracles at the hands of mortal men. It’s entirely possible your son pulled through thanks to his God given immune system. I pray he didn’t rush out to get vaccinated. It infuriates me that they’re pushing that even AFTER having the full blown disease.
It’ll take decades, but I hope the recompense to those who were injured by this sad state of affairs in history is substantial.
Have the docs run an antibody test on him. My doc is running it on everyone who comes in and if they’ve already had covid and they’re antibodies are high he is recommending no covid shot/vaccine. He is also using the test for recommending whether or not to get the boosters that are coming out.
I agree - it was a miracle he came through as bad as he was. Prayer works! Highly doubtful that he will get the jab. I keep hemming and hawing about myself getting it, but probably won’t.
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