Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Scientists claim that overeating is not the primary cause of obesity (Low Glycemic needed—not less food)
Science Daily ^ | Sept. 13, 2021 | David S Ludwig, Louis J Aronne, Arne Astrup, Rafael de Cabo, Lewis C Cantley, et al

Posted on 09/13/2021 9:03:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-37 last
To: gnarledmaw

The calorie is a reasonable fuel/surplus unit.


21 posted on 09/14/2021 2:14:38 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind
"The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much."

Rather than an either/or dichotomy, I think that eating when it is not needed for energy since you consumed calories, and eating foods high in fat calories, and empty carbs vs lean protein sources and whole grains and veggies, is behind most weight gain and lack of energy. And that it is still holds that if you consume more calories then you burn then you will gain weight, but while you could eat "junk food" and still lose weight if you still burn more than you expend (I overall did for many years), yet as one ages, the lack of energy due to fat and or empty calories being consumed (rather than lean protein sources, whole grains and veggies) will lead to weight gain as more of such food is consumed in the quest for energy which such food only provides a short term of energy for.

22 posted on 09/14/2021 3:18:38 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212

Allowing for differences in people, that is generally wrong.

Most people can eat far more fat calories without weight gain. Where does it go? If you are eating fat and your body is running on ketones it uses very different mechanisms to manage ketones than it does to manage blood sugar levels.

With blood sugar it is insulin that brings those levels down by storing it as fat.

If you overeat fat calories and entirely avoid carbs it may prevent you from losing weight, but for most people you won’t gain.


23 posted on 09/14/2021 3:41:53 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Bob434

👍


24 posted on 09/14/2021 4:47:03 AM PDT by laplata
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

***Scientists claim . . .***

Don’t you just LOVE this phrase? How many scientists?? Two?? That’s all it takes to make the statement “Scientists claim . . .”.

If “scientists” are like any other field (and they are), any group of “scientists” will most certainly have their share of losers. Therefore, if we can find two losers among the “scientists” who say anything, we can then make the statement that “Scientists claim” in order to back up ANY bogus argument.

Prove me wrong.


25 posted on 09/14/2021 5:37:53 AM PDT by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gene Eric

I share your humor.

However, the overarching question was, “Why?”

I emphasize the past-tense and reiterate my critique of the ‘scientists’...


26 posted on 09/14/2021 6:13:43 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind; Bob434; lee martell; bimboeruption; neverevergiveup; logi_cal869; laplata; ...
Glycemic load charts, lowest to high:


27 posted on 09/14/2021 10:40:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Albion Wilde

Albion Wilde, thanks very much for the ping. Good and helpful information.


28 posted on 09/14/2021 11:04:44 AM PDT by laplata
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Albion Wilde

I tend to prefer some of both.


29 posted on 09/17/2021 7:35:07 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: baclava

Im down 40 in about 4 months, but added time restricted eating. 16-18 hour “fasts” everyday.


30 posted on 09/17/2021 7:39:05 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Eat the Rich)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: lee martell

From the insulin-carbohydrate model Twinkies exactly are the problem. Sugary, carb rich foods like Twinkies trigger the insulin reaction that leads to fat storage and more hunger.


31 posted on 09/17/2021 8:03:56 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God help us )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212
I tend to prefer some of both.

I think most of us do. The really high glycemic no-nos aren't even listed -- but there is a little footnote about them at the bottom of the charts.

32 posted on 09/17/2021 1:31:04 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: logi_cal869

I went through the same thing, logi-cal. I’m tall and have always been on the lean side and then, out of nowhere, weight started piling on. I couldn’t understand it. My eating habit has always been once per day in the evening. I did not overeat.

Spoke to my doctor about it who also happened to know about a lot that was going on in my life at the time. His answer as to what caused the sudden weight gain was stress which increases the cortisol level which ... causes weight gain.

After my life settled down somewhat, the weight just fell off without any effort on my part.


33 posted on 09/18/2021 1:44:45 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SouthernClaire

You just validated some of many statements in my book.

I’m glad that it worked for you; it was not so in my case.

Calories or glycemic index played no role in both of our cases; I think that’s notable.


34 posted on 09/18/2021 1:50:47 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: SouthernClaire

Well I have the opposite problem......putting weight back on because I’m a fast burn. I’ve weighed pretty much around 112 my whole life. At 5’2...until I lost 2 inches when I broke my back...and went down to 101 pounds! Yikes! Now I’m about 117 as I’ve been less active.

Never dieted or watched what I eat either. But have not been a snack eater like chips etc. just don’t like them much. My downfall in summer is coke ice-cream floats and sundies. In winter I eat more so my weight is higher.


35 posted on 09/18/2021 1:51:21 PM PDT by caww ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: caww

So true about Winter, caww. I know you mean Summer regarding the ice cream, BUT ... nothing better than a tasty beef stew followed by some ice cream, curled up on the sofa with a movie. :-)

I had a stimulator placed on my spine last June. About a month later, I could not believe what I saw in the mirror. It looked as though I’d aged 100 years overnight and I was skin and bones. During my struggle to regain some weight, I worked out a couple of great recipes for cookies and candy. But it was the Key Lime and Lemon Icebox pies that helped get the weight back on. Oh yeah, let me not forget the help from Blue Bell’s Moolineum Crunch ice cream. I gained a little bit too much, to be honest, and am now trying to get it off.


36 posted on 09/18/2021 2:56:45 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: SouthernClaire

So you DO know what I’m talking about! Hats off to Ice Cream though!


37 posted on 09/18/2021 9:37:06 PM PDT by caww ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-37 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson