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To: armydoc

The media has chosen yet again another class warfare to divide this nation.


6 posted on 09/11/2021 7:25:26 AM PDT by patriot torch (Ashlie Babbitt-say her name)
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The media has chosen yet again another class warfare to divide this nation.

I forget who said it, but this is a good reminder that red and black ants in a jar don't fight until someone shakes the jar - their anger should be at the overlord holding the jar.

Sadly, that divisiveness has spilled onto FR, with the people getting the shots referred to as "sheep" etc., and a few pro-shot people aiming at the people who haven't gotten shots.

Everyone has their own situation...forget about the relatively untested messenger RNA platform and the declining vaccine effectiveness shown in the clinical trial data (i.e., their own data), that decays across the three checkpoints after the second dose -

a) it starts at 96.2% at the seven day to two month point (based on this disclosure and my understanding of surveillance time, it looks like an average of 48 days),
b) falls to 90.1% at the two to four months point (about 95 days on average), and
c) falls to 83.7% at the final/more than four months after the second dose point (about 125 days on average).

If I am elderly, immune-compromised, and want to watch my granddaughter get married, etc., I can see someone opting for these shots. That doesn't make them sheep, or stupid, or a member of the CFR etc.

Alternatively, someone who sees all this data and information, not to mention the absence of a multi-year clinical trial to assess long-term impacts (what happens if at the 23 month mark your left eyeball pops out? Whoops...better recall the shots...) and decides they're willing to accept a 1.8% case fatality rate, which is as low as 0.04% if you're between 19-29, that doesn't ipso facto make you a rabid anti-vaxxer.

As with any situation, there are people dug in. I suspect about 15% of the pro-shot folks will get boosters happily and willingly even if eyeballs fall out. I also suspect there is about 20% of the anti-shot folks who would rather pluck out their eye before taking these shots.

This means 75% of the public will face this decision: booster or not? If people who are anti-shot were smart, they'd strategize and plan, but time is short.

If I'm correct and this thing is seasonal, regardless of shot status we will soon see a seasonal surge in cases, hospitalizations and fatalities. It's not a tough case to make: The majority of deaths in most countries can be attributed to causes that feature a distinct seasonal pattern. The figure depicts the relative monthly frequencies of nine selected causes of death in the United States for women and men combined for the years 1959–2014. The reported number of counts in parentheses in the title of each panel is the actual number of deaths.

A smart strategist would wisely note to those on the fence, "Viruses gonna virus." This bug isn't polio and "the jab" won't render people immune for life. We have to ignore the authority bias and face up to the likely reality that promising eradication or even herd immunity via vaccination is like promising an end to world hunger via the UN...

A prudential approach would be to lay out the options - perpetual boosters with unknown long-term impacts that may or may not keep out out of the grave, or take better care of your health (yaelle has some interesting observations/actual data on what helped) and face a bug with a 98.2% survival rate.

I suspect we'd find many people open to reason if the spokesperson isn't yelling. But be prepared for the onslaught - lots of jar-shakers won't like this approach.

63 posted on 09/11/2021 8:51:02 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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