Posted on 09/08/2021 2:40:39 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
The CDC is corrupt and every nurse knows that
I believe their numbers about as much as I believe mainstream polls.
I think it’s misleading to reduce the favorable results for the vaccine by counting a time when it has been announced not to be effective. Vaccines are routinely given with the information that they don’t take effect immediately. A simple solution for the stats, though, is simply to announce in parentheses “(measured from efficacy date two weeks after shot)” or some words to that effect.
3 months from full vaccination aren’t counted as “vaccinated “? I looked all over on the CDC site and couldn’t find a thing about 3 months…could you provide a link?
If we follow Israel’s timeline, we’ll get more double-jabbed hospital cases as the mRNA injections lose their efficacy.
>> If you’re in the hospital and only had one shot you’re counted as unvaxxed. If you had two shots but were less than two weeks from the second shot you are counted as unvaxxed. If you had two shots but the second shot was more than three months ago you are counted as unvaxxed. Those are the rules the CDC uses to determine who is and who isn’t vaxxed in the hospital. <<
The article explicitly states “fully” —”...a hospitalization rate of 4.33 per 100,000 for the fully vaccinated and 26.33 per 100,000 for the unvaccinated”. That reduces the number counted as vaccinated, but it still indicates favorable results for that group compared with the others. Unless you have reason to believe that being partially vaccinated or beyond the efficacy date of the second shot increases your chances of hospitalization over persons who have had no shot at all, then it shouldn’t affect judgments about whether the vaccine is helpful.
I was just doing the same thing that mikelets456 did about “three months”. Do you have a source for that “three months” limitation in counting the fully vaccinated? I searched for cdc vaccination hospitalization stats, and found this in an article: “Among 1,129 patients who received 2 doses of a mRNA vaccine, no decline in vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 hospitalization was observed over 24 weeks.” https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e2.htm So that’s at least six months rather than three. I’m not saying they aren’t but don’t see why they should just be counting three.
Ah, but how many of these “unvaccinated” have recovered from Covid and therefore have natural immunity?
>> If we follow Israel’s timeline, we’ll get more double-jabbed hospital cases as the mRNA injections lose their efficacy. <<
Well, if they’ve lost their efficacy, that would be expected. Another thing to bear in mind is that high-risk persons get most of the early shots, so that may affect the stats depending on which ones you’re looking at.
Don’t forget as time drags on vaccine efficacy drops as well so do you only count being vaxxed at peak efficacy? After your 3rd, 4th, 5th etc booster shot do you still wait 14 days before you’re considered fully vaxxed?
What about the prior infected but unvaccinated? That has got to be millions of people and they are not showing up in the hospital witn Covid except in very rare cases.
This is an unknown PR release but it shows growing hospitalizations of the vaxed.
This data is incomplete.
I think the stats should be computed in whichever way shows whether it’s helpful or not to get the vaccine.
I’ll add that though in general I’ve thought that getting the vaccine is the lower risk for most persons (except for the young), I myself may have had a serious side effect after my second shot of the Pfizer vaccine. Within a couple of days I got a burning sensation (diagnosed over the phone as neuralgia) in my right foot (which was also swollen) but also to some degree in my left one, and it hasn’t gone away many months later. This isn’t listed as an ordinary side effect of the vaccine, but I’ve come across some medical studies that list it as a rare one.
This has me concerned about whether a booster shot would be too dangerous for me (it might “boost” the neuralgia), even if advisable for most persons. Neuralgia can cripple a person and spread to their hands too. So far I don’t know how to get any information about what my odds would be, and whether it’s something about my body itself that makes the vaccine a higher risk for me. I didn’t have an immediate allergic reaction, just what may be an effect a couple of days later.
“If we follow Israel’s timeline, we’ll get more double-jabbed hospital cases as the mRNA injections lose their efficacy.”
We will and the data here shows it’s happening.
How does it work on stains?
And they started gathering the data when less than 1% had been jabbed...basically 99.5% of all the cases for a while were un-jabbed which skewed the hell out of their ‘data”.
What are you talking about?
it’s common scientific knowledge that it takes about 2 weeks for ANY vaccine to start to be effective.
If you get a vaccine and get sick within 2 weeks you are EFFECTIVELY unvaccinated.
Our local hospital which is slammed, is showing 9/1 unvaccinated to vaccinated in both admissions and ICU stays.
The CDC doesn't count people as 'vaccinated' until 2 weeks or more after their second dose. But the first dose correlates with increased COVID infections. SO the 'unvaccinated' are often those who experienced increased risk of Covid because they got their first 'shot'.
Are the COVID vaccines bio-weapons? Posted on 9/8/2021, 1:25:11 AM by Norski |
Excerpt The FDA confirms that the 1st vaccine dose correlates with increased COVID infections. “Suspected COVID cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs 287 in the placebo group.” This data comes from Pfizer itself. See p 42 of https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download |
Israel is having a horrible time with Covid now even though they are among the most vaccinated nations on Earth. So, Israel has redefined 'vaccinated' to mean 2+ weeks after your 3rd dose (booster). All others who were previously 'vaccinated' are now declared 'unvaccinated'.
This is how they hide the catastrophic truth about the vaccines. They don't work!
Yeah, but. But. But. Wait a minute, I’ll think of something. Let me google why you’re wrong. Hang on. Um. Vaccines make you magnetic.
partially vaccinated means one of two jabs taken more than 14 days prior to hospital admission
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