The false potential of 'alternatives' to Covid-19 vaccines. PREVNAR13 and Baracitinib are insultingly inferior options. GIVE US AND OUR DOCTORS IVERMECTIN, HCQ/AZ and real choices, NOW!

9/3/2021 | vanity

[ransomnote]

Copying post by rxsid from another forum thread, regarding breakthrough infection rates:

rxsid to ransomnote

Not surprising to anyone paying attention. Not surprising at all.

Reports Of Vaccinated Breakthrough Cases/Hospitalizations/Deaths Are On The Rise - Sharply

A sampling of stories from around the country, and world.

When looking at stories, or data, keep in mind the timeframe. Is the data they are sharing/reporting regarding the entire vaccination timeline (from Jan), when there were far fewer variants and far fewer participating in the experimental injections? Or, is it what's happening recently, in the last week or last month with a growing pool of variants and participants in the experiments?

• Reports from July Archived Here: COVID Booster Shots for All Americans, Starting Sept. 20 (Increased risk of severe disease among those vaccinated early).
  
  
• Delta Variant Death Rate Among Vaccinated Over 5 Times HIGHER Than The Unvaccinated In England - Feb 01 to Aug 02, 0.86 percent death rate for vax'd, 0.17 percent for unvax'd. Report here (Table 5). (09.03.2021)
   
• SF General and UCSF Staff COVID-19 Infections Raise Concern About Rate of Breakthrough Cases - About 80% new cases in July were vax'd (08.01.2021)
  
  
• Sunriver Family Reunion Leads To Breakthrough COVID Cases, Hospitalizations (OR) - 62% of the covid infections from the reunion of 28 were vax'd, some of those hospitalized. (Aug 2 2021)
   
• Ocean County got about 100 COVID-19 ‘breakthrough’ infections in the past week (NJ) - 3X more breakthrough cases in last week, than previous ~28 weeks combined. (08.02.2021)
   
• Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data - It is bad and getting worse. - Older vax'd - 12 fold increase in "serious illness" in last month (08.03.2021)
  
  
• Despite breakthrough cases and deaths, Utah doctors continue to push vaccination - 3 out of 5 (60%) covid deaths over the weekend were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)
  
  
• Amid Delta variant and with almost 50% of NFL positive COVID-19 tests among vaccinated players and staff, union calls for daily testing for all - Between July 25th-August 1st, 65 positive cases among players & staff, 32 were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)
  
  
• Milton seeing rise in COVID-19 cases, about half in vaccinated residents (MA) - ~65% of town is vax'd. About 50% of new covid cases in last 2 weeks are vax'd. (08.06.2021)
  
  
• Majority of Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients at Hospital in Israel Are Fully Vaccinated: Doctor - 85-90% hospitalizations and 95% of severe patients are fully vax'd. Hospital specializes in nursing care for elderly. (08.07.2021)
  
• COVID: San Francisco Bay Area Restaurants Temporarily Close Due to Breakthrough Cases Among Staff - 100% new covid cases from vax'd. 3 area restaurants in story, 7 total new covid infections among all staff, all staff were required to be vax'd. Citywide, 78% of all eligible SF is vax'd. (08.08.2021)
   
• State leaders report 36 breakthrough cases at two Southern W.Va. nursing homes - 69% of the 52 "active" cases were vax'd. (08.09.2021)
  
  
• Covid Cases Keep Climbing; More Clusters Reported (Martha’s Vineyard) - Of 48 new cases during first week of Aug, 52% were fully vax'd. (08.09.2021)
  
  
• CDC Director Admits Claim That Over 99% of In-Hospital Covid Deaths Were Among Unvaccinated People Was Junk - Instead, the actual data was 30X more than stated. 15% of Covid in-hospital deaths in May were vax'd. (08.09.2021)
  
  
• [The latest seven-day COVID-19 data for El Paso was released Monday, August 9] - 29% of new cases and 14% death rate were fully vax'd. (08.09.2021)
  
  
• NY COVID Hospitalizations Up 229% in Month; Severe Breakthrough Rate Rising in NJ NJ - 18.5% of all new COVID cases, fully vax'd, July 20 - 26. Hospitalization among vax'd Jan - July 26 = 0.004%, from July 20 - July 26 = 3% (74,900% increase). (08.09.2021)
  
  
• Don’t Panic, But Breakthrough Cases May Be a Bigger Problem Than You’ve Been Told Current public-health messaging may understate the scale and risk. No good tracking. Every indicator suggests there’s a lot more under the radar than is public. (08.12.2021)
  
• 7 Vaccinated Florida Patients Die of COVID; Nurse Calls Situation 'Disturbing' - All in past 2 weeks. Had treated "hundreds" of COVID patients before & hadn't lost one prior to this.(08.17.2021)
  
  
• Hawaii whistleblower: 'More patients dying from vaccine than Covid' - Say's he saw 32 elderly people pass away immediately after taking the Moderna vaccine. Also, medical diagnosis codes changed from other diseases to Covid for billing.(08.17.2021)
  
  
• Massive fraud in reporting vaccine injuries; withheld data, pretense of “safe and effective” - EudraVigilance (EU, EEA, Switzerland), MHRA (UK) and VAERS (USA) data, Moderna internal data. (08.17.2021)
  
  
• 18 Fully Vaccinated People Die Of COVID-19 In Massachusetts In Past Week - Including 2,500 new breakthrough cases, 496 hospitalizations (in past week). (08.18.2021)
  
  
• Israel, Once the Model for Beating Covid, Faces New Surge of Infections - One of the most vaccinated societies, Israel now has one of the highest infection rates in the world, raising questions about the vaccine’s efficacy.(08.18.2021)
   
• Study: Fully vaccinated people with "breakthrough" COVID Delta infections carry as much virus as the unvaccinated (UK/Oxford) - vaccinated people with "breakthrough" infections could still pose a significant infection risk to those who have not been vaccinated. (08.19.2021)
   
• Whatcom County’s reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases nearly double in July (WA) - County breakthrough cases February through June = 98. July cases alone = 95. (08.19.2021)
  
  
• In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge - Fully vax'd infections: March 2021 = 2%, June = 20%, July = 30%. Fully vax'd hospitalizations: April = 5%, July = 13%. (08.19.2021)
  
  
• The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge - “If you’re limiting yourself to a small subpopulation with only hospitalizations and deaths, you risk a biased viewpoint.” (08.20.2021)
   
• BOMBSHELL UK data destroys entire premise for vaccine push - 2/3rds of Delta deaths in the UK were vax'd. 02/01 - 08/02 742 deaths, 402 fully vax'd, 79 partially vax'd and 253 unvax'd. (08.21.2021)
  
• Over 60% of deaths in Clark County, NV, (Las Vegas) are now in vaccinated people. - Alex Berenson research. (08.24.2021)
  
  
• 52% of Southern Nevada COVID-19 Deaths Were Fully Vaccinated? That's What This Data Says - August 11th – August 19th, 96 deaths, 50 were fully vax'd. Majority of breakthrough cases since 08/04 did NOT have preexisting conditions.(08.25.2021)
  
  
• Guess What All 4 of the Dallas Cowboys Who Recently Tested Positive for Covid Have in Common - All were fully vaccinated. Player vax rate is 93%. See above, 08/03, regarding league wide earlier this month. (08.25.2021)
   
• Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 times the Covid viral load as unvaccinated - Oxford University Clinical Research Group published in The Lancet. (08.26.2021)
  
  
• Massachusetts breakthrough coronavirus cases jump 1,364 in one week, state’s daily infection tally up 883 amid delta spike - About 1/3 of new cases in last few weeks are vax'd. (08.03.2021)
• A team of scientists has found why elderly people are more susceptible to COVID-19 (Isreal) - Researcher recommends continual/perpetual vaccinations "Even every three or four months, vaccinate them again and again" (08.30.2021)
  
  
• More than 100 Ontario youth sent to hospital for vaccine-related heart problems: Report - Ontario province only, through Aug 7. Also, 54 persons 25-39 y.o. & 44 persons 40 and over.(09.03.2021)
  
• New study shows updated numbers for breakthrough cases in Lexington (KY) - Nearly 30% new cases last month were vax'd. (08.03.2021)
  

[Pelham]

“Given that fact that spike proteins can cause blood clotting leading to death, I would think it fits the definition pretty accurately.”

Where’s your source. Give me a link.

[Pelham]

Looks to me like you’re the one having a fit. An emotional “eff off” rant like you posted isn’t helping your case now is it.

[HypatiaTaught]

Dr. Charles Hoffe in Canada, found 62% percent of patients who received COVID mRNA jab tested positive for
blood clots.

But of course his findings are dismissed by mainstream powers because it runs interference with their plan to push the poison jabs to all of humanity.

Now, I am asking you, what medical training do you have to dispute this Doctor’s findings?

[HypatiaTaught]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sIWb9GTbbE

For your research...

[pax_et_bonum]

God bless you, ransomnote.

[Pelham]

“But then it hit me. The title of the vanity is give us snd and our doctors ivermectin and HCQ/azithromycin.”

What’s amusing to me is that I probably made the first post here at FR suggesting that HCQ could help with covid. I may have inadvertently armed the haters, lol.

I had been nosing around PubMed after I heard that Covid was a SARS virus and I ran across a 2005 NIH paper speculating that HCQ had helped prevent infection during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak. So I mentioned that on a Covid thread and provided a link.

SARS-1 didn’t last long enough to allow much testing. Covid has, and in some countries hospital workers have been given HCQ and ivermectin to see if it would protect them from infection. It doesn’t seem to have worked, infection rates remained the same. That’s likely why enthusiasm has waned in the medical world versus the freeper school of medicine which is certain that it’s a plot.

[Pelham]

Where’s Hoffe’s peer reviewed study? Got a link?

[Pelham]

“Nonsense. Anyone can compare studies and compile stats or determine if double-blind, placebo was used versus unblinded, etc.”

Well actually they can’t. That’s why real critiques get published just like the original studies.

[Pelham]

And how does that answer my question to ransomnote? I don’t notice a school mentioned in your post.

[Pelham]

What relevance does that have to my question?

[ransomnote]

KBirb on Twitter: AFRICA & IVEERMECTIN 31 countries (I marked in blue) have had regular dispensing/access to Ive*mectin. The others have not. A dramatic difference
Twitter ^ | Aug 27, 2021 | Twitter User: KBirb

Posted on 8/30/2021, 11:52:38 AM by ransomnote

[H/T Fractal Trader]

KBirb @birb_k

Aug 27

 

1) AFRICA & IVE*MECTIN According to study (in thread), 31 countries (I marked in blue) have had regular dispensing/access to Ive*mectin. The others have not. A dramatic difference. Starting with daily deaths/100k. [READ THRU END, #15] …

@richardursomd

@PierreKory

@drsimonegold

 

 

 

 

 

2) AFRICA & IVE*MECTIN. …and the case curves. …

 

 

[Pelham]

So are you keeping your education secret?

Either answer the question or don’t. No one is forcing you to answer.

You don’t even have to write an essay on the question of “moral authority”. Just refuse to answer or plead the 5th or something. People can draw their own conclusion.

[LilFarmer]

Your “scary” story - not true

@ByronYork

The great ‘horse dewormer’ absurdity continues. Oklahoma doctor makes wild claim—no beds for gunshot victims because so many people are being treated for ‘horse dewormer’ OD. Hospital scrambles to clarify: It’s not true.

Link to hospital statement:

https://nhssequoyah.com/

[ransomnote]

So are you keeping your education secret?

Either answer the question or don’t. No one is forcing you to answer.

You don’t even have to write an essay on the question of “moral authority”. Just refuse to answer or plead the 5th or something. People can draw their own conclusion.
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So I should let you create a false criteria, like the number of cars I own, or the times I’ve put my car on a ferry while traveling, and then you will use that
‘standard’ as a means of determining whether I, as a citizen, have a right to read and opine on information specifically designed for consumers. Have I got that right?

Pelham said: “Either answer the question or don’t. No one is forcing you to answer.”

You following after me, asking me over and over again, because you still haven’t gained the social acceptance you seek, and you need it. You need me to accept whatever irrelevant criteria enters your head as if it were valid because, although you WANT to refute the information I provided, you simply can’t.

I quoted CDC data. I linked to drug manufacturers information for consumers. I stated my opinion. You’ve got nowhere to go. So you play power-play games and waste my time while doing it.

GET USED TO NOT BEING IN CONTROL OF OTHERS.

Time for you to ‘save face’ by declaring you won. If you’re extra needy, make sure to pretend to have sympathy for people who don’t concede to your insistence you’re in charge. Maybe act embarrassed for those who don’t pretend you are the best judge of what others can post.

[grey_whiskers]

Did you ever tell us where you got your medical training?

You don't need MEDICAL training when the problem is that those in charge have been lying through their teeth since day 1.

You just need at least as much common sense as God gave gravel.

People were fooled into "two weeks to slow the spread" because they believed all the BS about people falling dead in mid-step walking down the street, and people being welded into their apartment buildings, in Wuhan, over in China.

Tell me how many ordinary people have dropped dead with no warning from COVID in the US.

Take out the lies by the CDC about the case numbers.

Take out the tens of thousands killed when Dem governors put COVID patients into nursing homes.

Take out the 40% of the dead who had diabetes.

Now notice that even with all of those things LEFT IN, we don't have the worldwide Spanish Flu like the "medical experts" said.

The fatality rate is around 0.3% or something, even in the "worst case".

But most of those are over 70 with existing co-morbidities.

So why are they pushing to jab 12-year olds?

[bagster]

What’s amusing to me is that I probably made the first post here at FR suggesting that HCQ could help with covid.

What's amusing about that? You are a pioneer and a man ahead of his time. A man of vision. You are truly a renaissance man, and I'm nominating you for the Nobel Price in Medicine and Awesomness.

We can probly attribute your forward looking genius to your extensive and broad medical training. Can you tell me where you took it again, so I can fill in the blanks on the nomination form?

I may have inadvertently armed the haters, lol.

That's an odd term to use...'haters'. You see hate where there is only love. We love our fellow man so much that we weep to see them taken advantage of by the true haters. You know, the people that you're backing. They aren't called 'vax nazis' for nothin', you know.

What kind of people see death and destruction and slough it off as collateral damage for the greater good? There is no love on your side of the coin, only fear and hate.

So, yea. To call us 'haters' is to project and display a lack of understanding of the situation. I am disappoint.

in some countries hospital workers have been given HCQ and ivermectin to see if it would protect them from infection. It doesn’t seem to have worked, infection rates remained the same.

Link please. And while you're at it, provide a link regarding the numbers for the general population (not just hospital workers), with special attention to India. Thanks in advance.

That’s likely why enthusiasm has waned in the medical world

Again, you display a lack of understanding of the big picture. The 'lack of enthusiasm', as you call it, was a deliberate sabotage of Ivermectin and HCQ by your masters (CDC/NIH/Fauci, et al) for the express purpose of clearing the field for the rushed poison vax emergency authorization.

the freeper school of medicine which is certain that it’s a plot.

At this point, what you call the 'Freeper school of medicine' is more informed and trustworthy than the socialized, corrupt, and controlled 'medical community', politicians, fake news media, and wherever it is you get your government propaganda.

You would be wise to pay attention.

[bagster]

Well actually they can’t. That’s why real critiques get published just like the original studies.

If Johnny is a cheater, and he gets his paper graded by Billy, who is also a cheater, then the test grade is corrupt and can't be trusted.

You simply must realize that the medical and scientific community that you trust so much is corrupt, controlled. and bought and paid for.

They write what they're told to write.

(see climate change for further information)

Pelham, you are coming across as a child. No offense.

[bagster]

They write what they're told to write.

Correction:

They write what they're PAID to write.

[bagster]

What relevance does that have to my question?

What relevance? Let's see....

You know full well that you're game playing is only intended to delegitimize Ransomnote as somebody lacking the 'medical training' to post and opine on this subject. You also know full well that no medical training is required to do what she does. And yet you ride this dead horse.

Its clear you have no medical training of your own, Pelham, or you would have laid it out. You have sleazy lawyer tactics, because that is what you are trained in.

Here's how you should have approached your line of inquiry.

Pelham:

"I have several degrees in Microbiology, Virology, and Immunology. I have a PHD in Medicine. I have much training and education in Vaccines, which is the subject under discussion. You?".

That's how it should have went. That way, your tactic wouldn't be so transparent.

You still have not explained why your opinion matters or why anybody should consider you worthy of sitting in judgement of somebody observably smarter and better informed than you.

That's how its relevant.

#FailedLawyerTactic

#DidYouProsecuteOJ