Laughable, To quote a blogger anonymousmugwump:
"This position is open to two sets of criticisms, both of which undermine the "offers" given by the Taliban. Firstly, the credibility of such offers is minimal for several reasons. The Taliban claimed that Bin Laden went "missing" before they then went on to offer him when faced with air strikes. The Taliban continued to speak with two voices, the highest echelons (Mullah Omar) rebuffing any indication saying in October "there was no move to hand anyone over" while the less senior officials like Muttawakil and Kabir needed "evidence" and would pass him over to a "third country" which would never "come under pressure from the United States." Even this offer is unreasonable given the British government published a dossier on Bin Laden's involvement in 9/11.
And even this is being far too generous to the Taliban: they have a history of making "offers" which amount to nothing. The National Security Archives obtained a file which was written pre-9/11 which documents talks with the Taliban on Bin Laden: In our talks we have stressed that UBL has murders Americans and continues to plan attack against Americans and others and that we cannot ignore this threat... These talks have been fruitless. The Taliban said that they want a solution but that cannot comply with UNSCRs [United Nations Security Council Resolutions that demand his expulsion from Afghanistan]. In October 1999 the Taliban suggested several “solutions” including a UBL trial by a panel of Islamic scholars... Taliban consistently maintained that UBL’s activities are restricted despite all evidence to the contrary. Often our discussions have been followed by Taliban declaration that no evidence exists against UBL This all sounds very familiar but these talks did not concern 9/11 but the other attacks Bin Laden carried out against Americans pre-9/11. At this stage it should be sufficient to say that the Taliban have a track record of dilly-dallying but there's more. Evidence was consistently rejected by the Taliban: On May 27, in Islamabad, Undersecretary Pickering gave Taliban Deputy Foreign Minister Jalil a point-by-point outline of the information tying UBL to the 1998 embassy bombings... The Taliban subsequently rejected this evidence. This is also the conclusion of the British government: [In June 2001] Despite the evidence provided by the US of the responsibility of Usama Bin Laden and Al Qaida for the 1998 East Africa bombings, despite the accurately perceived threats of further atrocities, and despite the demands of the United Nations, the Taleban's regime responded by saying no evidence existed against Usama Bin Laden, and that neither he nor his network would be expelled. Sometimes they just refused to respond to the USG (e.g. Sept. 29, 2000, October, 2000). The result is that the U.S approached the Taliban to expel Bin Laden 30 times before 9/11 to no avail. This in spite of repeated "negotiations," and demands not just from the USG but from the United Nations Security Council. Even the Bush administration tried three times in 2000 to no avail. In sum, we had multiple voices speaking out on something that the Taliban regime was clearly not serious about and had avoided. It is no surprise that the USG did not take seriously calls for evidence or negotiations: they completely lacked credibility. "
And no Wokeness didn't allow the Taliban to take over but it sure as s**t didn't help.
” On Gab, a social network with a large far-right user base, one popular post waxed nostalgic that when the Afghan war started, the U.S. was “a Christian nation” that banned gays in the military, considered trans people “mentally ill,” and outlawed gay marriage.”
Anyone got a link to this?
The vile POSes are coming out in force.
Articles like this are not what they purport to be about. This is not an article about Afghanistan.
Wokeness or treachery at the highest levels. Take your pick.
The mass media seems to have found the one-winged bird.
The bird has a far right wing, but no far left wing!
Strawman
I think the author of the article is projecting: it is probably the LEFT that secretly admires Islamic extremism. After all, they worship power, and Islamic terrorists have no qualms about exercising raw power. A favorite slogan on the left during my college years was, “Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun.”
Thank goodness I have these folks around to tell me what I am thinking.
A small base supporting the national army is not an occupation.
Just as we have come to regret being there, we may also come to regret pulling out, certainly as precipitously as we did. Was keeping the Talibs out at the cost of a small base worth the price? I don’t know the answer but… We are all going to get a front row seat as we see what happens over the next couple of years.
Wake up, Silverman.
You can’t pinch us under the table and get away with it this time— everybody is looking.
A week or so before the American deaths, the White House released a video showing an obviously gay guy mincing about the Executive Mansion and interacting the with press secretary Psaki ostensively to encourage young people to get the jab.
It would be foolish to assume that word leaders, friendly and not-so-friendly, including Afghans didn’t watch and judge the leadership of this administration accordingly.
As for woke, Biden didn’t have the time or inclination to inform our allies of his decision to quit Afghanistan on the 31st as per the Taliban’s demands. Perhaps he was taking a nap. And of course virtually every world leader was able to publicly react to our troops’ deaths before Biden.
Mr. Jacob Silverman at ‘The Atlantic’ can lie to himself all he wants in order to sell a story to Leftists but it’s not that “the far Right thinks wokeness is why America lost in Afghanistan”, it’s that the Taliban KNOW that wokeness in the military is one major reason why the United States lost in Afghanistan.
NYU pussified homo. He doesn’t have the first clue what damage the woke movement has done to our military.
He can keep writing pieces like this until our military, lead by globalist woke Ivy, JFK School of Government, and Georgetown types have to conduct a war against an actual strong military.
Then there won’t be any way to hide the woke damage.
Trump foretold, in 2017, the consequences of withdrawing too fast.
Joetato did everything Trump said would lead to disaster.
The problem is, obviously, wokeness and the gays and gender-neutral pronouns and U.S. cultural decadence, all of which have conspired to make our military soft and incapable of ruling Afghanistan with the iron fist it required.