Posted on 08/30/2021 8:38:32 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
That’s a misreading of that data. It actually means those deaths were
Rmiscoded as no one dies of COVID. People die of what COVID does.
they died in the hospital and fortunately my wife- her parents- and I were able to go and be outside their room, and talk to them on the phone and see them, this was in november, my mother in law actually developed clots from the virus and one broke loose and she died immediately after being in there about 3 1/2 weeks, my father in law a passed a few days later just from the havock the virus reacked on his lungs and decreased breathing ability.
I’m no doctor but I slept at a Holiday Inn last year. If they were hospitalized prior to Covid -19 symptoms were recorded, they likely died from Sepsis. Sepsis kills 270,000 patients a year in US hospitals and that number was down last year from years before. My husband had sepsis following chemo therapy. He had been hospitalized. He was on a respirator. He went into remission with great medical treatment and lived a full life for two more years. The WHO was panicking about 100’s of 1000’s of global deaths from sepsis at the same time Covid-19 was making its debut into the nightmares of we the people. They suddenly went silent.
Is Sepsis still killing people in US hospitals at the rate of 270,000 a year or not???
stupid people like me? what are you a joke? I dont live in fear, neither did my in laws who died, stupid statements are stupid statements, when you have people you love die from this virus then you will see stupid statements as stupid. what goes around comes around? what the heck does that mean? I am glad you recovered my in laws didnt’ and now my kids have no grandparents dont be an idiot.
Stupid was your word, not mine.
So sorry to hear about that. My mother’s difficulties also seem to be clot related. My wife’s mother died long ago from a clot that broke loose and went to her brain.
more like 90+ percent.
probably a goodly amount died of “hospital.”
what is your problem? dont be a stupid idiot. hows that? I said comments people make like- people die with covid not from covid -is a stupid comment which it is. my in laws wouldnt have died had they not had covid what is so hard to understand about that? sorry you dont like that.
sorry to hear about your mother. its a tough situation.
I see from your posting history that this is the first time that you have shared this very painful experience on this forum. Thank you for sharing this with us after all of these months... For me it would have been very difficult to not mention it. But we all react differently to life changing events. I hope that this will be a cathartic experience for you.
“ so the wording that people like to say- they died with the virus not from the virus is mindboggling to me! when you have someone you love die from the virus you understand, until then you say stupid things!”
Please show me where anyone said that about your in-laws.
I’ve seen a total of zero people anywhere claiming that covid doesn’t exist or isn’t dangerous. What is being said is that the pandemic claims are unsubstantiated and fake. That doesn’t mean people don’t die, just that it’s blown out of proportion to reality, with many if not most dying from other things. Surely, even in your sorrow, you can understand the difference beteeen dying with and dying from covid. Again that doesn’t mean covid doesn’t kill people on its own, it means the numbers are artificially inflated.
I’m sorry for your loss, but your story is anecdotal and doesn’t mean that everything claimed by the “experts” is true.
EDs were lowering until last week. Which reflects 4 weeks ago, which was essentially when the delta surge began.
EDs are always hard to wrap your mind around. Whatever it says Wednesday is actually what happened 4 weeks ago. This past Wednesday the 85+ category rose from negative EDs to positive EDs and other age groups returned to last year’s positive ED levels.
Big event of some sort late July, which appeared only last week.
My goto selection is weekly deaths by age. There is no point in allowing the invulnerable 30 yr olds into the denominator. That’s like including men in a pregnancy rate.
My wife is a retired nurse and department head at multilevel care facilities. Everywhere she worked I was a volunteer, and of course I participated in many transports over the years with very sick people. But it is a completely different experience when it is your loved ones who are sick and/or dying. We lost a couple people this year as well.
thank you, the virus and responses to it are all over the sprectrum, I know there is a political side to things which people resist, rightfully so, I resist the control as well, but there actually is a real virus that for certain people can be fatal. I just wanted to share this because I used to say stupid things about the virus like 99.99% people survive and other stupid things, but like I say when you have people you know die from the percentage doesnt matter anymore. and death causes you to stop saying those stupid things, and it also makes you cringe when you hear really dumb statements. I can’t make people change, unfortunately loss and heartache is what made me change. But I also know the Lord and understand that my in laws are in heaven and ultimately are better off, my father in law wouldnt be able to handle whats going on in our country
As screwed up as the covid morbidity statistics are (80-90% false assignation according to the article), the “daily cases” numbers are even less reliable.
There are three reasons for this:
First, the tests are far from conclusive - the percent of both false positives and false negatives result in an unacceptable margin of error. Yet, the tests are reported as though they were bulletproof.
Second, changes in the daily cases numbers are driven in large part by the daily number of people tested. If twice as many people are tested today as yesterday, the number of cases might be double, even if there is no increase in positives as a percent of those tested. Yet, the statistic is simply reported as a nominal figure without qualification.
Third, the testing is far from random. People get tested for various reasons: they have symptoms, they were hospitalized, they may have been exposed, or they may be required to be tested. This is far from a randomized selection, so it tells us nothing about the true rate of spreading of the infection in the general population.
ALL of these statistical failings could easily be mitigated by proper statistical sampling, or by correcting other obvious flaws in how the data is collected, interpreted and reported.
Yet they are NOT mitigated - the grossly erroneous and misleading reporting of covid statistics continues - a year-and-a-half later.
That tells us one thing for sure: the powers-to-be do not want the public to get clear answers. They seem happy to keep public fears at a certain level. Why? I am pretty sure we know the answer:
Marxists never let a crisis go to waste. They manufacture and exploit a crisis in order to “justify” their mandates and to make the low IQ masses willing to “temporarily” give up their liberties.
I am amazed at how long it is taking people to wake up to what is happening.
My nephew died 07 Aug. Immediate cause of death is listed as Septic Shock, caused by secondary bacterial pneumonia, acute respiratory failure with hypoxia, all caused by Covid-19 pneumonia.
Put simply, his lungs were half-full of fluid, he was put on a respirator, ICU staff could not suction out the fluid so it solidified, his organs began to shut down because of lack of oxygen and his mother pulled the plug.
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