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Apple’s iPhone 13 will support satellite connectivity, says Ming-Chi Kuo
The Indian Express ^ | August 30, 2021 | Chandigarh | Tech Desk

Posted on 08/30/2021 7:46:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: srmanuel

Starlink to offer voice over IP

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/spacex-plans-starlink-phone-service-emergency-backup-and-low-income-access/


21 posted on 08/30/2021 8:18:50 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: SunkenCiv; Swordmaker; dayglored; ShadowAce

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22 posted on 08/30/2021 8:19:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: PapaBear3625

That makes logical sense, if Starlink and can keep to the latency targets they are talking about VOIP calls should work fine.....


23 posted on 08/30/2021 8:23:05 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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To: livius

livius wrote: “It won’t add anything more to their capabilities than what they already have...and I sure think it would be great to have satellite connectivity.”

I used to hunt a lot on some property on the Al TN line. The property was about 400 acres. There was only one spot, about the size of a tennis court where one could connect to cell towers. We called it the Phone Booth. Now a couple of miles away and connections were good and solid.


24 posted on 08/30/2021 8:46:02 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

They’ve been growing an economy-of-scale advantage with their ever-more-capable SOCs in both phones and computers. They got their wired protocol accepted by the entire industry, and now are going to destroy whatever’s left of the already thin margins of its hardware competitors, which has been likened to the margin on bananas.

Most CPU production is in Asia, regardless of manufacturer — apart from Intel, which is going down the memory hole faster than the Russian space program.

They’ve reserved most of the manufacturing capacity of TSMC’s 5nm process, and TSMC is going to roll out 3nm — Apple has reserved that as well. The projection was that Apple was buying more than half of TSMC’s entire production capacity for 2021.

AMD also avails itself of TSMC’s OEM capacity, btw.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/tsmc-reserves-80-percent-of-its-2021-5nm-production-for-apple_id129196

https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/02/08/apple-tsmc-5nm-chips-2021/

https://samagame.com/en/apple-reserves-all-of-tsmcs-production-capacity-for-3nm-chips/


25 posted on 08/30/2021 8:51:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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26 posted on 08/30/2021 8:51:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: montag813

Exactly so, and QCOM needs the economy of scale and standardization that the iPhone (and only the iPhone) can offer.


27 posted on 08/30/2021 8:54:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: srmanuel

I’ve been using VOIP over StarLink for 4 months. Works fine. Just gotta have the StarLink Dish.


28 posted on 08/30/2021 9:47:08 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SunkenCiv

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29 posted on 08/30/2021 10:04:15 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: SunkenCiv
> The antenna needed for direct service with the satellites would be, uh, impractical for mobile phones.

Ummm, YEAH.

Every time I read about "satellite phones" I laugh and wonder how the hell they propose to supply the required power and carry around a 2-foot dish antenna....

Answer: Cell tower relays. They just don't talk it about them...

30 posted on 08/30/2021 10:21:57 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: livius

“I sure think it would be great to have satellite connectivity. I sometimes go hiking or traveling in remote areas and this would be very nice to have.”

Does the person you’re calling also have to have a satellite phone?


31 posted on 08/30/2021 10:37:16 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: billorites

I figured it would the latency numbers Starlink promotes would certainly allow VOIP calls with little to no issues...

But the article that started this thread indicates Apple has a future Iphone that will make satellite calls, which means they need a way to broadcast up to a satellite, I can’t imagine Apple would make a big bulky phone like an Iridium to accomplish this which makes it very curious to me how they will get this done...


32 posted on 08/30/2021 10:41:25 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, how does Globalstar make money from this. Does the user have to buy a separate subscription to their services in addition to what they already pay for say Verizon or AT&T?


33 posted on 08/30/2021 10:41:48 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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Apple will use the GlobalStar constellation. Going to be very expensive.

I've used satellite phones frequently in wilderness settings for over 20 years. GlobalStar sucks, but Iridium are outstanding. Very dependable. I don't consider them bulky at all.

34 posted on 08/30/2021 10:44:03 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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"Does the person you’re calling also have to have a satellite phone?"

No. You call their landline or cell phone.

35 posted on 08/30/2021 10:45:15 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Will Biden update the Obamaphone users with this capability?


36 posted on 08/30/2021 10:46:02 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: billorites

You’re right the iridium phones are not bulky but compared to a slimmed down Iphone there is a difference...


37 posted on 08/30/2021 10:47:17 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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To: srmanuel

I think the satellite phone will require a directional antennae.


38 posted on 08/30/2021 10:50:30 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’d venture to say that most all the engineers that work for Google at the development level are from China or those parts.

They are here on visas and when they return home they bring what they have developed back with them.


39 posted on 08/30/2021 10:51:07 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: billorites

I would think you’re right, how apple does that will be interesting.


40 posted on 08/30/2021 10:52:33 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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