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Weighing the risks of COVID vaccines against the risk of the COVID virus
mlive.com ^ | August 29, 2021 | Julie Mack

Posted on 08/29/2021 12:15:47 PM PDT by be-baw

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VAERS is essentially useless and its data should be ignored.
1 posted on 08/29/2021 12:15:47 PM PDT by be-baw
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It's no wonder the author likes bio-weapons


2 posted on 08/29/2021 12:22:32 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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I think if you’re exposed to the virus at work, or living in an area, eg GA and other states with low vaccinations I’d; recommend the vaccine.

OTOH, I’m not so eager to take a booster less than one year from taking the vaccine.

Not all vaccines are 100% effective, so you’re going to get people vaccinated who get the virus, but the illness should be milder.

In summary, if you’re staying home, rarely going out, then fine, don’t take the vaccine. If you’re in public, you will sooner or later get the virus if you’re not vaccinated.


3 posted on 08/29/2021 12:22:42 PM PDT by nikos1121
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I agree. COVID infection and death statistics should also be ignored — for the same reason.


4 posted on 08/29/2021 12:23:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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be-baw wrote: “VAERS is essentially useless and its data should be ignored.”

Except for those who want to ignore the difference between causation and correlation.

From the article: “To see the vaccine as riskier than the virus itself is like people who refuse to wear a seatbelt “because they heard of someone who drowned in a car accident because they couldn’t get their seatbelt off,” Zaroukian said. “You can always come up with a story about the rare exception of where doing something that should keep you safe was in this instance less safe.””

The anti-vaxxers are just like those refusing to wear a seatbelt. You can always find some obscure excuse/reason for not doing something you do not want to do.


5 posted on 08/29/2021 12:23:34 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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So... will he be punished for discussing misinformation here? Because when doctors talked about their success with ivermectin last year they were silenced and condemned because their “anectodal evidence” wasn’t “scientific”.

Now watch out, here comes pro-vaxx doctor - but he touts the government line so we should all listen to him because he’s a “good” doctor.

BS.


6 posted on 08/29/2021 12:24:27 PM PDT by Skywise
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This article seems like apples to oranges to me. Yes people die with covid. What are their preexisting conditions? Does it compare to the first wave before the vaccinations? And as usual everything leaves out how many natural recoveries are reinfected?.


7 posted on 08/29/2021 12:24:29 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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Why should I get multiple shots for an illness I have a 99.8% chance of recovering from?


8 posted on 08/29/2021 12:25:15 PM PDT by V_TWIN
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nikos1121 wrote: “Not all vaccines are 100% effective, so you’re going to get people vaccinated who get the virus, but the illness should be milder.”

Can you name two or three vaccines that are 100% effective?


9 posted on 08/29/2021 12:25:17 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: be-baw

Then why post it?


10 posted on 08/29/2021 12:25:43 PM PDT by Hildy (In an unforgiving world, only the shameless survive.)
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[[Because when doctors talked about their success with ivermectin last year they were silenced and condemned because their “anectodal evidence” wasn’t “scientific”.]]

And now they are threatened with possibly having their licensees revoked too if the left get their way-


11 posted on 08/29/2021 12:26:58 PM PDT by Bob434
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VAERS is The FDA & CDC are essentially useless and its their data should be ignored.
12 posted on 08/29/2021 12:27:45 PM PDT by EEGator
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Not 100%, are you shitting me?
The vaccine is around 39% with respect to the Delta variant.
See Israel and England, and probably us this Fall/Winter.


13 posted on 08/29/2021 12:29:10 PM PDT by EEGator
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GateXi did NOT take the DNAoperating system HIMSELF.:

"(On August 24 ...before that day’s proceedings were set to begin,
Gates made a shocking statement to the Office of Military Commissions.
He said he was not vaccinated against Covid-19
and that he believed he caught the virus from another inmate at Guantanamo Bay.
The military, however, doubted Gates and David Baluarte’s sincerity
and tested Gates using every known Covid-19 test to determine whether he was actually ill.
All tests came back negative.
Two naval physicians gave Gates a clean bill of health,
and Vice Adm. Hannink said the tribunal will resume Tuesday."

14 posted on 08/29/2021 12:29:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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Oh great one, please present us with the long term studies on mRNA gene therapy.


15 posted on 08/29/2021 12:30:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Hildy

Do you think I should not have posted it? If not, why not.


16 posted on 08/29/2021 12:31:16 PM PDT by be-baw
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Imagine a giant jar of one billion M&Ms and the government insists that every man, woman and child in the US needs to reach inside and eat 2 of them but .05% (500,000) of the M&Ms are laced with a fatal amount of cyanide, would you still be willing even eat just one? How about 2? Or 3? Or continue to eat one every 6 months if the government insists it’s necessary for the common good and welfare of the nation?


17 posted on 08/29/2021 12:31:48 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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The “vaccine” is NOT against the virus genome... it is against a small segment of the mRNA which encodes for a portion (not all of it) of the protein of the S-Protein (the spike proteins on the OUTSIDE of the virion (the container surrounding the full virus genetic component). And all of these are the original Covid-19 small clip of the mRNA of the S-protein.

NOT for ANY variant mutation of the S-Protein (mutations Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and now Delta... and soon Lambda).

So, these are NOT true vaccines both for the reason they are not against the entire protein sequence, but also, more importantly-— the full virus can be stored in what are called “animal reservoirs” and thus cannot be eliminated from the world.

Smallpox has no animal reservoir, and so— the vaccine in this regard is a true preventive vaccine. Polio virus is another one. These are the only true vaccines.

Constantly changing to a “booster” to accommodate an ever mutating S-Protein.... is futile. And aside from that— quite profitable to misrepresent the need.


18 posted on 08/29/2021 12:32:36 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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EE, wait a little bit and you’ll hear the crickets chirping.


19 posted on 08/29/2021 12:33:13 PM PDT by A Cyrenian (MO's state motto: Let the welfare of the people be the supreme law.)
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Because right after you posted it, you said this: “VAERS is essentially useless and its data should be ignored.” So you ignore it by posting it?


20 posted on 08/29/2021 12:33:21 PM PDT by Hildy (In an unforgiving world, only the shameless survive.)
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