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To: Widget Jr
I want to avoid us having two different conversations over each other. My concern is, that you are running several related yet separate events and issues together. That makes having a clear discussion on any single issue nearly impossible. So please clarify:

Are you saying there are no Covid reference samples at all?

Do you believe that Covid has never been isolated?

Don't ignore my content and keep asking the same questions over and over like you've never been given an answer. Read the OP.

Are you aware that the PRC tests that found Covid in Kiwi were bad Chinese tests in Tanzania, and were not U.S. tests?

The dog ate their homework? Are you aware that they wanted the President to base public health policy on a test they can just discard with an 'oops!' if they get caught? The orange juice test done by American children was a few months ago. You're asking the questions I've already answered. BY DESIGN, BY CYCLE RATE the PCR test cannot diagnose illness. The CDC admits it doesn't differentiate between other coronas. THe NYT article PROVES That as does the CDC's own decision to replace the test. 

The evidence is out there - your fake incredulity and decision to pretend I've not already amply provided answers to questions you keep asking is a 'tell'.

Also, good for the Tanzanian health agencies for checking their testing equipment and their President for publicly calling it out.

Yes. Yes. The Deep State was so happy he exposed their plot with ease, it's a wonder he's still alive.

49 posted on 08/25/2021 1:15:56 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
I gotta say, Ransomnote. Its a slaugherhouse up in here. As usual, when you get revved up.

p.s. Whatever happened to that Blueplum vax-bot?

51 posted on 08/25/2021 1:40:23 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote
Don't ignore my content and keep asking the same questions over and over like you've never been given an answer. Read the OP.

Time to step back and start over.

First: I appreciate the effort you put into your posts, you are really dedicated. Although we disagree on a lot and sometimes testily, you put the work into it. So I want to have a civil discussion and disagreement.

Second: For everything other than what I disagree, with I agree with you. I have no disagreements with the last half of what you posted at all, just the first half.

Third: From the original post:

"No purified samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. After 19 months, no one has successfully isolated a sample of the Covid virus."

The virus was isolated, replicated, mapped and distributed after "CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel" was published. Here are some articles and medical studies discussing isolating the Covid. Some of them use PCR testing as a research tool, not a diagnostic. Ever since PCR methods were developed they have been used as research tools. The issue is as a medial diagnostic tool, not as a research tool.

Feb 20, 2020: Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea with COVID-19.
Mar 12, 2020: McMaster researcher plays key role in isolating COVID-19 virus for use in urgent research
Mar 25, 2020: I study viruses: How our team isolated the new coronavirus to fight the global pandemic
May 18, 2020: Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy
Jun 11, 2020: Detection and Isolation of SARS-CoV-2 in Serum, Urine, and Stool Specimens of COVID-19 Patients from the Republic of Korea
Feb 24, 2021: Phenol-chloroform-based RNA purification for detection of SARS-CoV-2 by RT-qPCR: Comparison with automated systems

Second: You cited Judy Mikovits.

Fifteen years ago she burned her career as a medical researcher due to research fraud on XMRV and chronic fatigue syndrome. TLDR, she made a complete fool of herself and destroyed her career. Using someone who already had no credibility does not help your case. When she says:

"Dr. Judy Mikovits: Correct because SARS Cov2 was never a human virus isolated from human cells and shown to be infectious and transmittable to human cells."

As I linked above, researchers have isolated it from human patients. Doctors are treating patients with it. Patients are dying from it. From post 10, Covid's entire genome has been mapped, Mikovits is denying reality.

When I watched Plandemic, it was clear to me other than her name she was telling only half truths. Looking up what I suspected, I was right. She misrepresented research and oversimplified issues in ways that could only be deliberate. What Christine Blasey Ford is to honest testimony under oath, Mikovits is to ethical medical research.

66 posted on 08/25/2021 2:48:02 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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