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Ballot NOT proof of citizenship/residency
self | 24 August 2021

Posted on 08/24/2021 6:59:58 AM PDT by rey

In obtaining a real ID and reviewing the list of valid documents to prove citizenry and place of residence, I found it rather telling that a ballot is not considered proof of anything.

It is also interesting that my selective service papers are not considered proof of citizenship. Who else would be registered for the draft other than a citizen?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ballot; citizenship; realid

1 posted on 08/24/2021 6:59:58 AM PDT by rey
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To: rey

Well, generally, one submits the ballot for counting, and doesn’t keep it on hand. Selective Service is also not proof because legal immigrants who are not yet citizens are also required to register.


2 posted on 08/24/2021 7:04:06 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Looks like I goofed it a bit. Even illegals and refugees are required to register for selective service.


3 posted on 08/24/2021 7:06:41 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: rey

I had to jump through hoops to get my license renewed! I am 66 years old and I had to prove I was married so had to have my marriage license, had to have my birth certificate, had to have proof of address (couple pieces of mail) and my SS card!! But no ID to vote!?!? This country is upside down.


4 posted on 08/24/2021 7:08:09 AM PDT by JoJo354 (Trump is still my President)
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To: rey

There was a time when government entities were not supposed to share information with each other, particularly the IRS but Social Security changed all that. Try getting through life in the U.S. without a Social Security number.

With as much vote fraud as allows to happen in some states, I’m just as glad that voting is not proof of citizenship since some states (cough, cough) California (cough) thinks illegals voting is perfectly okay.

If I’m not mistaken, there were times in our country when illegals were allowed to serve in our military because recruitment was low and the military paid wages. Personally, I would be okay with illegals receiving citizenship if they serve honorably in our military for a minimum of two years.


5 posted on 08/24/2021 7:08:33 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: rey

You do not need to be a citizen to Volunteer or serve in the US military. Serving in the military is helpful to get on the fast track to citizenship. There are quite a few people from Europe, Mexico, Central and South America who do this.


6 posted on 08/24/2021 7:15:04 AM PDT by Qui is (Biden spews and Harris swallows)
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To: rey

Just print yourself a “birth certificate” like Obama did.


7 posted on 08/24/2021 7:16:29 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: rey

Pretty much all men who aren’t in the US on a CURRENT, non-immigrant visa are required to register. This includes permanent residents (green card holders), refugees, and illegals and overstays.


8 posted on 08/24/2021 7:18:57 AM PDT by billakay
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To: rey

Green card holders are subject to the draft and believe it or not, so are illegal aliens.


9 posted on 08/24/2021 7:28:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: JoJo354

My SS Card? I haven’t seen that thing in decades. I have two versions of my passport..I wonder if that is acceptable?


10 posted on 08/24/2021 7:45:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: rey

Both male citizens and male immigrants are required to register for selective service.

https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/

A citizen is any person born in the US, born to US parents (even if born overseas) or someone who has been naturalized and granted citizenship. An immigrant is anyone else living in the US. Think green card or work visa.

Since Selective Service does not require citizenship, registration is not and cannot be used as proof of citizenship.


11 posted on 08/24/2021 8:52:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: JoJo354

Last time I had to renew mine, I did the usual h o u r s of wait time with not even a half dozen people ahead of me. There were four fresh from the border and a crazy CA dude.
I was covered with bug bites and couldn’t get to the shower fast enough back home. Double washed my clothes and sprayed the car with bug spray.


12 posted on 08/24/2021 8:56:23 AM PDT by bgill (.Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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To: rey

I went through Army Basic Training in 1972 with an East German who had been drafted. Ironically, his family had smuggled him out of East Germany to keep him from being conscripted into the DDR Army. To this day non-citizens can enlist.


13 posted on 08/24/2021 11:00:44 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: bgill

Oh man, you win! That sounds like one horrible day! At least I was able to just walk in and get ‘er done. Small town. Love it.


14 posted on 08/24/2021 4:12:47 PM PDT by JoJo354 (Trump is still my President)
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