Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Covid supplements help needed!

Posted on 08/17/2021 8:42:51 AM PDT by missamyb

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-102 next last
To: missamyb

Monoclonal antibody infusion. This should be your priority. The other options pale in comparison.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-authorizes-regen-cov-monoclonal-antibody-therapy-post-exposure-prophylaxis-prevention-covid-19

If you want things in addition to that, good choices would be (given the health issues of the person involved, the doctor should be asked if they’re okay to take):


Quercetin (with bromelain & vitamin C to aid absorption)
Green Tea Extract
Zinc
(Those three work together)

Vitamin D (with Vitamin K if taking high doses of D)
NAC
Turmeric/curcumin (with piperine-black pepper to aid absorption)
Other antioxidants such as Vitamin C and Astaxanthin
Fish oil
Melatonin (at bedtime)

Ivermectin (probably the second priority to look into but far behind monoclonal antibody infusion.) There’ll likely be hoops to jump through to get a prescription (unless you go the ivermectin horse wormer route.)Doctor probably won’t okay ivermectin even if he okays everything else.


81 posted on 08/17/2021 5:23:12 PM PDT by FreedomForce
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy; missamyb

“People often poo poo hydroxchloroquine Well it helped me”

Zinc may be what’s fighting the virus, it interferes with viral replication. But zinc needs an assist to get through cell membranes in order to work. HCQ or quercetin can fill that role. Quercetin is the easier one to get since you can order it from a vitamin supplier, it’s a supplement and not a drug.

here’s PubMed paper on it:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8264737/

Quercetin as zinc ionophore

Quercetin, a bioflavonoid polyphenol, has been shown to act as a zinc ionophore, enhancing entrance of zinc into cells to inhibit viral intracellular replication. It is also believed to block viruses from entering cells in the first place. An Oak Ridge National Labs/University of Tennessee study of many FDA-approved compounds presented supercomputer modeling results for inhibition by them of SARS-CoV-2 viral S-spike binding to cells. The study ranked quercetin as fifth out of 20 top performers.

Studies have shown quercetin also exhibiting anti-inflammatory properties, which could help mitigate the inflammatory response of cytokine and/or bradykinin storms provoked by COVID-19. A wide range of anti-viral/immunity benefits of quercetin have been identified, as well as other health benefits that may address some comorbidities of COVID-19 and some of its sequelae.


82 posted on 08/17/2021 6:24:13 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Pelham

SeekAndFind posted a thread about treatments. It had a link to a demonstration that Quercetin works on its own.

Groups at high risk for the wuhan coronavirus have more stored iron. Some claim Quercetin removes iron from the body.


83 posted on 08/17/2021 6:27:26 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy

Thank you sad we couldn’t help her


84 posted on 08/17/2021 7:53:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Pelham
Quercetin and zinc are turning out the one heck of a product.
1. fights cancer (P53 Gene)
2. fights covid and flu's
3. slows ageing
https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2018/ss/a-biomedical-renaissance

Which spike proteins accelerate ageing.
The injections that create spike proteins can't be turned off.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.02.424917v2.full
85 posted on 08/17/2021 8:06:35 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: TTFX
said, "It had a link to a demonstration that Quercetin works on its own"
Yes it does but it's dumb to use half of what the product can do.

Which is exactly how they made HCQ look bad in testing.

Quercetin works in two ways. as a zinc ionphore (channel in the hemoglobin for zinc.) Second way. It works as an inhibitor which prevents the viral protein from binding to the hemoglobin. Quercetin is a PH base the viral proteins are acidic which prevents the binding.

COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism
https://ravikollimd.com/resources/COVID/COVID-19__Attacks_the_1-Beta_Chain_of_Hemoglobin_and_Captures_the_Porphyrin_to_Inhibit_Human_Heme_Metabolism_v5.pdf
86 posted on 08/17/2021 8:22:13 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Steve Van Doorn

Yep, quercetin and EGCG have antiviral action beyond their zinc ionophore function, but people might as well get full benefit by including zinc. A lot of the antiviral research on quercetin and EGCG is in vitro.

Here’s an interesting study I ran across about quercetin + bromelain + C (without zinc.) Not sure how reliable it is, but it suggests quercetin is useful. And it’s with people instead of in vitro.

https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr239932


87 posted on 08/17/2021 8:58:38 PM PDT by FreedomForce
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: missamyb

Don’t give your Aunt anything without checking with her oncologist. Antioxidant supplements may feed cancer.


88 posted on 08/17/2021 9:09:06 PM PDT by OrangeDaisy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreedomForce
From the report.
said, "hygiene measures, social distance and personal protective equipment are the only basic protection against Novel Coronavirus. However, these are not sufficient to protect healthcare workers"

It blows me away how we "forgot" thousands of years of medicine when covid came. Someone should've woken up grandma.
89 posted on 08/17/2021 9:09:36 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: OrangeDaisy

large amounts of beta-carotene (antioxidant) can be a negative effect with smoker and lung cancer.


90 posted on 08/17/2021 9:19:39 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: Steve Van Doorn

That and how ugly ....purely evil in my opinion the callousness shown her by a handful

Lowest point I’ve ever seen here....Jim Thompson to his credit banished the worst....I applaud that


91 posted on 08/17/2021 9:55:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: TTFX

“SeekAndFind posted a thread about treatments. It had a link to a demonstration that Quercetin works on its own.”

I’m not sure what you mean by “works on it’s own”. Quercetin is a zinc ionophore, as is HCQ. Either one will enable zinc to cross cell membranes where the zinc can then interfere with viral replication.

They might also reduce the ability of the virus’ spike protein to attach to ACE2 receptors. I don’t know that that’s been proven. One HCQ test that seemed to work in the lab required a dose far higher than is deemed safe in your body. Quercetin should be the safer choice as well as easier to get, being a supplement rather than a drug.


92 posted on 08/17/2021 10:17:31 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Steve Van Doorn

“The injections that create spike proteins can’t be turned off.”

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.02.424917v2.

I don’t know why “injections” is being mentioned since the link leads to an article discussing effects of the wild virus, not of spike proteins generated by the vaccines.

The vaccine generated spike proteins are not identical to the wild Covid spike proteins, something that gets ignored by those ginning up fear of the way the vaccines are designed.

The vaccine spike proteins were purposely altered so that they can’t function like the wild virus. They can’t infect you, and the article at the link is discussing cytokine storms resulting from covid infection.


93 posted on 08/17/2021 10:45:49 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: Pelham
Spike viral proteins never get shut off from the injectons.

The Janssen codes the viral protein with an oxygen atom then transcription takes place which means this viral spike protein keeps reproducing.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/johnson-johnson-vaccine-scientists-perspective/

The other mRNA injections start with trillions of aluminum cantons that create the S1S2 viral protein. The S1 subunit mutates into hundreds (that I'm aware of) viral proteins some of which are new variations of covid. page 24 makes this fairly clear
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/preprints202104.0034.v3.pdf

said, "spike proteins are not identical to the wild Covid spike proteins"

True. They're spike proteins never the less which ALL spike proteins no matter how benign we view them. They ALL cause cancer (P53 gene) and accelerated aging. If these viral proteins simply stopped reproducing they might be fine.

said, "They can’t infect you"
What does it mean when the S1 subunit reproduces and mutates into something new?
If you mean they can't cause infections that part might be true. Though the mRNA creates variants of covid.

said, "something that gets ignored by those ginning up fear of the way the vaccines are designed"
Yeah that is it. I'm creating fear over the injections.
94 posted on 08/17/2021 11:15:15 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: Pelham
you what to know what causes fear over the injections?
Telling people, "you can't buy food if you don't inject the koolaid." You don't need to know anything about history, statistics, science or medicine to understand there is something very wrong with that.
95 posted on 08/17/2021 11:37:42 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: Pelham

I’m not sure what you mean by “works on it’s own”.


It helps people with wuhan coronavirus giving them Quercetin and nothing else.


96 posted on 08/18/2021 6:44:21 AM PDT by TTFX ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: TTFX

I’ll see what I can find. I just located a 2016 PubMed paper “Quercetin, Inflammation and Immunity” that backs the idea that quercetin alone could be useful. I like finding pre-2020 papers since that eliminates the argument that the research is tainted by covid politics.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC4808895/

“In vitro and some animal models have shown that quercetin, a polyphenol derived from plants, has a wide range of biological actions including anti-carcinogenic, anti-inflammatory and antiviral activities”

The most promising aspect of quercetin is that it’s found in food so readily available. Not a drug. It’s possible that food sources could be superior to supplements as is sometimes the case with vitamins.


97 posted on 08/18/2021 8:17:10 AM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: Steve Van Doorn

So you’re a biochemist and can evaluate the claims in those links? You’re pretending which is why you post nonsense like “They ALL cause cancer (P53 gene) and accelerated aging”.


98 posted on 08/18/2021 8:56:18 AM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: Pelham
You sarcastically asked for a link to my post
“They ALL cause cancer (P53 gene) and accelerated aging”

Coronaviruses (CoVs) belong to coronaviridae family and are the largest RNA viruses identified till date S2 subunit of SARS-nCoV-2 Interacts with Tumor Suppressor Protein p53 and BRCA: an In Silico Study
https://archive.is/DAY6i#selection-4493.44-4493.47

Cellular Mechanisms of Somatic Stem Cell Aging
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3982593/
99 posted on 08/18/2021 10:46:29 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | View Replies]

To: Pelham
Thread On the Treatment of Covid-19: What do the available scientific evidence and current clinical experience tell us so far? has this link:

Possible Therapeutic Effects of Adjuvant Quercetin Supplementation Against Early-Stage COVID-19 Infection: A Prospective, Randomized, Controlled, and Open-Label Study
100 posted on 08/19/2021 11:01:02 AM PDT by TTFX ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-102 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson