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Remembering Afghanistan’s Golden Age
NY Times ^ | Oct 17, 2009 | Elisabeth Bumiller

Posted on 08/16/2021 9:53:25 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

American and Afghan scholars and diplomats say it is worth recalling four decades in the country’s recent history, from the 1930s to the 1970s, when there was a semblance of a national government and Kabul was known as “the Paris of Central Asia.”

Afghans and Americans alike describe the country in those days as a poor nation, but one that built national roads, stood up an army and defended its borders. As a monarchy and then a constitutional monarchy, there was relative stability and by the 1960s a brief era of modernity and democratic reform. Afghan women not only attended Kabul University, they did so in miniskirts. Visitors — tourists, hippies, Indians, Pakistanis, adventurers — were stunned by the beauty of the city’s gardens and the snow-capped mountains that surround the capital.

“I lived in Afghanistan when it was very governable, from 1964 to 1974,” said Thomas E. Gouttierre, director of the Center for Afghanistan Studies at the University of Nebraska, Omaha, who met recently in Kabul with Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top NATO commander in Afghanistan. Mr. Gouttierre, who spent his decade in the country as a Peace Corps volunteer, a Fulbright scholar and the national basketball team’s coach, said, “I’ve always thought it was one of the most beautiful places in the world.”

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1 posted on 08/16/2021 9:53:25 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Muslims.
Capable of ruining a society even faster than a Democrat.


2 posted on 08/16/2021 9:54:39 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Thank you for posting.


3 posted on 08/16/2021 9:54:41 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: Da Coyote

“Muslims.
Capable of ruining a society even faster than a Democrat.”

Ha. I’d say it’s a photo finish.


4 posted on 08/16/2021 9:56:06 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Calling it “the Paris of Central Asia” isn’t saying much.

Pittsburgh calls itself “the Paris of Appalachia.”


5 posted on 08/16/2021 10:00:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
“the Paris of Central Asia.”

And Utica is the Paris of upstate NY.

6 posted on 08/16/2021 10:00:36 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Islam happened.


7 posted on 08/16/2021 10:02:34 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789! )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Women in Kabul could wear Western clothes, but out in the country, not so much. I trained to be a Peace Corps Volunteer in the late 60s and we were told to not even mention or refer to any Afghan woman—wife, mom, sister—it could well cost us our lives. Yes, there were some Afghan prostitutes but even patronizing one of them could get us killed.

So if that was the ‘Golden Age’ to be looked back at nostalgically; it wasn’t all that golden in 95% of Afghanistan


8 posted on 08/16/2021 10:03:39 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: BenLurkin

And before too long, Paris will be called, “the Kabul of Europe.”


9 posted on 08/16/2021 10:05:18 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

We have too many scholars in charge and not enough hard men who have the will to protect a garden from weeds.


10 posted on 08/16/2021 10:05:48 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789! )
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To: hanamizu

Interesting. Thanks for posting that.


11 posted on 08/16/2021 10:07:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: BenLurkin
Calling it “the Paris of Central Asia” isn’t saying much.

Paris has been Paris for centuries and has a rich history behind it. Making a "Paris" in backward, impoverished, mostly desert Central Asia actually was an achievement. The fact that it didn't last may have made the achievement even more impressive.

12 posted on 08/16/2021 10:08:57 AM PDT by x
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To: x

Beirut was the “Paris of the Middle East”

Now, Paris is the “Beirut of Europe”


13 posted on 08/16/2021 10:10:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: x

Good point, and one that should make the people in Pittsburgh feel better about their city.


14 posted on 08/16/2021 10:11:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

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15 posted on 08/16/2021 10:12:24 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: billorites
"And Utica is the Paris of upstate NY."

And Petticoat Junction is the Paris of Hooterville.

16 posted on 08/16/2021 10:15:03 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Success is 10 percent inspiration and 90 percent perspiration." — Thomas Edison)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I watched this video last evening on the recommendation of another Freeper. It was very informative. It was about the history of Afghanistan and the complexities and difficulties of controlling a splintered country which has corruption at its core.

Many great powers have tried their hand at converting Afghanistan to a democracy and they have all failed miserably. The US, the Russians, Great Britain all thought they were smarter than the Afganis and could install a stable democracy into the country but in the end realized they could not.

After watching the film and reading about the Taliban taking over the country, I can assure you there will never be another golden age of Afghanistan.

Bitter Lake, Adam Curtis, 2015

18 posted on 08/16/2021 10:51:26 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Wrong link.


19 posted on 08/16/2021 10:55:33 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BenLurkin
Here in Washington they call Yakima the Palm Springs of Washington State
20 posted on 08/16/2021 10:56:18 AM PDT by shotgun
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