Posted on 08/07/2021 1:40:54 PM PDT by jagusafr
I keep reading about all of the COVID test animals dying with 90 days after receiving the mRNA vaccine. What’s the source for this? About to have a chat with my MD brother-in-law…
The ones they are using the US for covid 19; at least the Moderna and Pfiser are mRNA, which is genetic manipulation and not traditional vaccines at all.
Right, however, immunologically they both stimulate a specific antibody response to an antigen. The classic vaccines contain an antigen, but the mRNA vaccines make the victims cells create the antigen. Either way it causes problems when the next wild virus shows up. The mRNA vaccines have other said effects, but the main one is bad enough to get the SARS-COV-1 vaccines pulled.
I haven't gotten it and don't plan on it.
They have no idea what the long term effects are and there's lots of evidence that they are bad.
I'm in a low risk group and believe that if I get it HCQ and / or Ivermectin protocols, followed by natural immunity is the best way to go.
If the Covid-19 vaccines weren’t tested on animals, then what is this?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03275-y#Sec6
“Vaccine development against coronavirus (2003 to present): An overview, recent advances, current scenario, opportunities and challenges”
Published July 2020. Lists all vaccine tests on SARS-1 and MERS and SARS-CoV-2 up to the date of the study. I don’t see any reference at all to an mRNA vaccine.
The ones listed are live attenuated or inactivated virus. So I think it’s very doubtful that a “SARS-CoV-1 mRNA injection” vaccine ever existed. And if one did it would have simply been labeled “SARS mRNA vaccine” in every report prior to 2020. The longer name SARS-CoV-1 was only invented after Covid emerged.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7371592/
“In 2005 an animal study was done with SARS-CoV-1 mRNA injections on ferrets.”
Again, there is no report of a SARS mRNA vaccine nor a SARS-CoV-1 vaccine. There is a 2012 paper on a SARS VLP vaccine that speaks of a hypersensitivity reaction when the vaccinated ferrets are challenged with a wild virus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335060/
“The injections being called vaccines are an mRNA pathogenic primer that alters the immune system and human genome”
The human genome is DNA. mRNA is not DNA and it won’t combine with it to alter the gentic code.
Where in that study does it report key vitals about the overall short- or long-term health of the mice and monkeys? Anything? Other than protection against a virus? Anything about basic functions: cardiovascular, reproductive, neurological? I couldn’t find a word, but I’m just a Cave Man.
There was at least one experimental run with mRNA in a vaccine which was animal tested.
I read it.
It is now gone.
Citing the absence of evidence in the face of references to it is evidence in itself, particularly in a censor environment.
A lot of things mysteriously vanish during a reign of tyranny.
https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching
You might try looking in the Discussion section of the report.
“There was at least one experimental run with mRNA in a vaccine which was animal tested. I read it. It is now gone.”
In Conspiracy World that stuff always happens. The Cabal never sleeps and erases all traces of their nefarious deeds. In the rest of the world memory is faulty or the original writer made a mistake but that’s always too mundane and boring.
There have been mRNA vax trials for many diseases since the 1990s. Zika, Ebola, Flu, Cancer, HIV, Herpes Simplex. Those diseases are widespread and have been around for years. SARS-1 and MERS were rare and disappeared on their own. If they had been around longer then maybe someone would have tried making an mRNA vax for them. But no one did and that’s why you can’t find any record of one.
The vaccine trials for SARS-1 and for MERS were conventional deactivated whole viruses and they did provoke the immune disease that you claim for the non-existent “SARS-CoV-1 mRNA vaccine”
“What about a SARS vaccine? Vaccine studies for SARS-CoV-1 were started and tested in animal models. An inactivated whole virus was used in ferrets, nonhuman primates and mice. All of the vaccines resulted in protective immunity, but there were complications; the vaccines resulted in an immune disease in animals. No human studies were done, nor were the vaccine studies taken further because the virus disappeared. Many factors were involved in the end of SARS-CoV-1, perhaps including summer weather, and certainly strict quarantine of all those who had contact with infected individuals, but we don’t really know why the epidemic ended. Viruses are like that, unpredictable!
Many of the vaccines being developed for SARS-CoV-2 are quite different, and many use only small portions of the virus, or the virus RNA. This may circumvent the problems with SARS-CoV-1 vaccines that used more of the virus. Vaccine development has a large experimental component; we just have to make educated guesses and try different things and see what works. Hence, many different avenues for vaccines are being tested by different labs around the world.
“There was at least one experimental run with mRNA in a vaccine which was animal tested. I read it. It is now gone.”
In Conspiracy World that stuff always happens. The Cabal never sleeps and erases all traces of their nefarious deeds. In the rest of the world memory is faulty or the original writer made a mistake but that’s always too mundane and boring.
There have been mRNA vax trials for many diseases since the 1990s. Zika, Ebola, Flu, Cancer, HIV, Herpes Simplex. Those diseases are widespread and have been around for years. SARS-1 and MERS were rare and disappeared on their own. If they had been around longer then maybe someone would have tried making an mRNA vax for them. But no one did and that’s why you can’t find any record of one.
The vaccine trials for SARS-1 and for MERS were conventional deactivated whole viruses and they did provoke the immune disease that you claim for the non-existent “SARS-CoV-1 mRNA vaccine”
“What about a SARS vaccine? Vaccine studies for SARS-CoV-1 were started and tested in animal models. An inactivated whole virus was used in ferrets, nonhuman primates and mice. All of the vaccines resulted in protective immunity, but there were complications; the vaccines resulted in an immune disease in animals. No human studies were done, nor were the vaccine studies taken further because the virus disappeared. Many factors were involved in the end of SARS-CoV-1, perhaps including summer weather, and certainly strict quarantine of all those who had contact with infected individuals, but we don’t really know why the epidemic ended. Viruses are like that, unpredictable!
Many of the vaccines being developed for SARS-CoV-2 are quite different, and many use only small portions of the virus, or the virus RNA. This may circumvent the problems with SARS-CoV-1 vaccines that used more of the virus. Vaccine development has a large experimental component; we just have to make educated guesses and try different things and see what works. Hence, many different avenues for vaccines are being tested by different labs around the world.
Seriously? I see nothing substantial there. Send me a quote of what you read that makes you feel safer.
Very helpful, Pelham, thanks.
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