Posted on 08/03/2021 12:13:51 PM PDT by Kevmo
for the cold fusion ping list
My guess is that NASA and the Pentagon have a lot more underway than they are admitting publicly.
Pentagon, yes. But NASA isn’t really allowed to run secret programs. They just keep secrets on the public programs they do run, such as what certain satellites are for when the shuttle deployed them.
A lightweight, safe space-borne nuclear reactor is pretty much the only thing standing between us and interplanetary commerce.
LENR would open the way for large amounts of electricity in space, which would open the way for large ion engines (which have been under development for about fifty years and are getting pretty good), which would open the way to much cheaper interplanetary travel.
Ion engines make about ten times better use of reaction mass than do chemical engines. Not to mention the fact that with space-borne LENR, ion engines could be supplied with reaction mass (i.e. “fuel”) from other planets and moons that have atmospheres. Immediately, the solar system is full of refueling stations.
Surely NASA has the ability to fashion nooks and crannies that escape routine public disclosure requirements. For example, NASA might do a joint project with the DARPA, with the project governed by military secrecy until NASA and DARPA agree to issue a public report.
Well this is somewhat surprising. I think they’ve got it right - there’s enough evidence that “something” is going on, but we haven’t cracked the nut yet. Speaking of nuts, I don’t think Rossi will be the one who does so, but the list of patent holders shows that others with deep pockets are taking LENR research seriously. Just need the right nutcracker.
They just keep secrets on the public programs they do run
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Such as Apollo where many Hasselblad photos in their catalogues are missing, wrongly cataloged, blurred, altered via razor blade (P’shop of the day), and otherwise changed. NASA is a ostensibly a public program that falls under DoD over-site. All back-channel Apollo communications are still classified or otherwise not available to the public. Even many images taken by the Cassini Probe have disappeared from their website. As well as many images taken during the early days of the ISS and Shuttle missions. Early Mars mission images have suffered the same fate.
NASA has lots of secrets. We’re just not supposed to notice, and when someone does they are publicly ridiculed etc.
Yes, plenty of secrets but no big secret programs.
I agree that Rossi won’t crack that nut but if he does, more power to him.
They have the ability but I don’t think they are doing secret programs. They aren’t set up for that, and they kinda suck at keeping secrets.
DIA, DARPA, those kinds of entities would be able to (and have done so).
https://www.amazon.com/Intercept-UFO-Renato-Vesco/dp/B0006WI572
The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles
Keywords: ColdFusion; LENR; lanr; CMNS
chat—science
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Vortex-L
http://tinyurl.com/pxtqx3y
Best book to get started on this subject:
EXCESS HEAT
Why Cold Fusion Research Prevailed by Charles Beaudette
https://www.abebooks.com/9780967854809/Excess-Heat-Why-Cold-Fusion-0967854806/plp
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Something is going on in this segment of science. There are a considerable number of research groups studying the matter. -Sidebar Moderator
There are those — including some former astronauts — who believe that NASA has kept quite a few secrets about UFO sightings and alien contact.
Read the book. You’ll understand the technology. They’re secret weapons deriving from experiments that go back a hundred years. You’ve heard of Ludwig Prandtl? Oscar Schrenk?
https://www.amazon.com/Intercept-UFO-Renato-Vesco/dp/B0006WI572
There is an aspect of this scientific investigation and
discovery, that is easy to lose sight of.
When Ponds and Fleischmann announced their discovery to
the world, it was little more than pointing to a door, and stating
there was something important behind it. I think they were
a bit premature in their announcement, but people did start
looking into what had taken place.
Then there was that other segment of the scientific community
that operated with the same know it all attitude that has
sprung up from the midst of groups of friends, all the way
up to groups of the greatest scientific minds of the day.
“Oh, that can’t work. You’re wasting your time. You’ll be
seen as the fool you are.”
This group has reared it’s ugly head across centuries, and
I’m sure many thousands of years as well. It causes delay
in scientific discovery. It has probably prevented some
astounding discoveries, that faded out of sight because
someone became discouraged.
The point is this. The Earth is not flat. The planets
do not orbit the Earth. The sound barrier was not a barrier
to man’s ability to travel faster than it. Traveling
across the universe faster than the speed of light, can be
achieved in theory, with folded space.
One needs to be very careful with matters of science and
talking in absolutes. One’s beliefs are only as sound as
the yet undiscovered scientific realities just barely out
of sight of the best scientific minds of the day.
It’s okay to remind folks of current scientific concepts.
It’s not okay to close the door to new theories and the
resultant discoveries the sciences will always deliver.
New discoveries have a nasty habit of happening in chains.
You block one new theory, at the risk of closing the door
to every new reality that will come with it.
We see it here. Closed minds never discover anything except
undeserved personal contentment.
I enjoy these threads, and look forward to many more.
The invective against tectonic plate theory had similar levels of... nonsense.
Science progresses one funeral at a time. ~Planck
Thanks for the mention.
That’s and insightful quote.
Document 4-13, Hugh B. Freeman to Chief of the Aerodynamics Division
[Elton W. Miller], “Boundary-layer research,” 18 April 1932, in RA file 201,
LHA, Hampton, Va
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April 18, 1932
MEMORANDUM For Chief Aerodynamics Division
Subject: Boundary-layer research.
1. The purpose of this memorandum is to call attention to the lack of largescale experimental data relative to the boundary-layer problem and to suggest a
program of research which will provide information along these lines.
2. The field of boundary-layer control, in this writer’s opinion, offers greater
possibilities for the improvement of aircraft performance and safety than any other.
This is because the control of the boundary layer influences every important aerodynamic characteristic of an aircraft. The three most important advantages offered
by the control of the boundary layer are: (1) increase in lift, (2) an increase in the
angle-of-attack range below the burble, and (3) a decrease in minimum drag. The
first two advantages have been shown repeatedly by tests on small models, principally those of Oscar Schrenk in Germany, who obtained a maximum lift coefficient
of CL
= 5.0 and an L/D ratio of 50 by the method of removing the boundary layer
on the upper surface of an airfoil by suction.
I find it hard to credit the explanation of UFOs as all being ours. Granted, some are, but other aspects of the UFO phenomenon exceed that explanation. There are centuries of sightings before electricity was even in use, persistent reports of alien abductions, and UFO intrusions into military airspace and close surveillance of and interference with nuclear weapons.
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