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Ultimately the test that nations mostly fail is not adversity or affliction but affluence, with its concomitant feeling of no need for God, and decreasing morality, respect for parents and just authority, commitment, loyalty, discipline and character overall, and propensity to selfish discontent and delusion.

In particular that of being deduced by the victim-entitlement mentality, in which spoiled children protest "injustice," presuming a right to what they did not merit, and being ungrateful for what they were given.

Thus parents - most of whom spoil children while failing in needed discipline (which sometimes can include judicious spanking, but which even many parents here think is child abuse) - become the scapegoats for a generation lacking in gratitude, purpose and morality.

Yes, this is a progression flowing from idolatry, replacing the omniscient omnipotent Creator (who alone cannot fail) as the ultimate object of spiritual affection, source of security and object of allegiance, with that which is created, and which will ultimately fail.

Along with this and its lack of gratitude toward God and to parents, comes that of dishonoring them, and of dispensing with innocent life rather than accepting the consequence of immorality and the commitment to children (convenience abortions).

As well as perversion of sexual union itself, joining men with men and women with women.

Along with theft via increasingly appropriating that which others worked for in order to selfishly obtain power and or possessions in their covetousness.

All of which perversions of what God had ordained the Left represents, as being proxy servants for the devil. Who selfishly seeks his own dominion, creating a society with these perversions and requires all to worship him, who created nothing and is the destroyer of the good. Yet we know who holds his leash (in order to enable man to be tested as to what he wants) and of his final defeat.

Pertinent Scriptures texts:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:18-21)

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (Romans 1:22-27)

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:28-32)

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (Ezekiel 16:49-50)

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Mark 10:25)

And thou shalt remember all the way which the Lord thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no. (Deuteronomy 8:2)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. (John 10:1)

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. (Isaiah 14:12-15)

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. (1 John 5:4)

And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Revelation 21:6-8)

1 posted on 08/01/2021 7:01:49 AM PDT by daniel1212
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It began in earnest with LBJ replacing the father with government welfare.


2 posted on 08/01/2021 7:03:46 AM PDT by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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Easy answer...The Left’s culture


3 posted on 08/01/2021 7:04:58 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; MamaB; ...

ping


4 posted on 08/01/2021 7:05:26 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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American Marxism.


5 posted on 08/01/2021 7:07:02 AM PDT by cockroach_magoo
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Don’t overlook the effect of drug use. The expotential rise of habitual drug use over the past sixty years correlates with the decline of the American family ( divorce, estrangement, early deaths etc).


8 posted on 08/01/2021 7:12:41 AM PDT by allendale
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I have a theory.

50 years ago the majority of Americans identified with a religion and it was an important identification. There was, sadly, a lot of subtle and overt discrimination based on this identification which wasn't healthy, but there was a root for each of us. In times of crisis though, the basic love for Christ did come through and we helped each other.

As the Baby Boomers and Gen X came of age, they rejected the church and said they would 'let their kids decide what they wanted to be,' Well, the kids decided to reject church.

But, people LIKE being in categories and over time we have moved our identification from church membership to political party membership - although conservatives seem to keep a closer association to church than liberals.

So for many people, the Democratic party is their new religion, identity, focus and to hell with anyone not in their 'church.'

I don't think this goes anywhere good

9 posted on 08/01/2021 7:15:19 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (No konger in VA. Living the OBX life now!)
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What’s Ripping American Families Apart?

N.Y. Times and their ilk.

10 posted on 08/01/2021 7:15:46 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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What about we are dramatically overthinking this situation, because being estranged from someone in your family is nothing new and probably hasn’t changed over the years...

Nearly every family that has two parents, more than one sibling combined with grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, probably has some that can’t stand each other and are estranged....

Most families I know have a crazy uncle who no one wants to be around....

Nasty divorces that lead to children dislike one parent or the other, parents that can’t stand each other after the divorce....

Any number of reasons can lead members of a family to become estranged....


12 posted on 08/01/2021 7:22:38 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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In particular that of being deduced by the victim-entitlement mentality, in which spoiled children protest "injustice," presuming a right to what they did not merit, and being ungrateful for what they were given.

Thus fueling a cycle of ever-increasing, unsatisfiable demands. Followed by falling into an event horizon of violence, savagery and atrocity.

14 posted on 08/01/2021 7:28:09 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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Root cause...

Psalm 2


15 posted on 08/01/2021 7:33:10 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 33:12))
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How many paragraphs before the NYT concluded the reason is Trump?


16 posted on 08/01/2021 7:34:29 AM PDT by bigbob
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Drugs. I’m surprised at how many people in my retirement community are estranged from their children or grand children due to drug abuse. The financial drain for rehab and maintenance is never ending. Finally they choose tough love and cut them lose. The worse case I ever heard was a grand father who co signed his grand son’s 100k + college loans and got stiffed.

There are many stories about kids who rob or kill their relatives for money as well. These kids must be a big disappointment to their folks.


20 posted on 08/01/2021 7:39:45 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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What’s Ripping American Families Apart?

One word: Divorce.


22 posted on 08/01/2021 7:42:58 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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Woke revisionism

Leftists are anti-God and plenty of Leftists have given up talking even to their parents because of a difference of political opinion. Numerous books, articles, and at least even one movie bemoaning their “paranoid” parents getting “all of their news” from Fox News, etc.

Academics stated last year that parents shouldn’t be able to home school because they might introduce religion into the course materials.


24 posted on 08/01/2021 7:48:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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Blaming parents (or one parent) for not being as successful as they’d hoped or not as successful as siblings.

Yep. That described 2 of the 6 kids in my family. Those two were estranged not just from my mom but from everybody else in the family except each other. They were just really bitter, nasty and jealous even though they had the same opportunities as the rest of us. One has since died. I don’t care. I haven’t spoken to the other in 24 years and never will again. If she were hit by a bus tomorrow I couldn’t care less. The split was entirely their choice.


25 posted on 08/01/2021 7:49:03 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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David Commie Phony Brooks and his treason pals at the Slimes are the enemy of the US .
The Slimes openly employ CCP operatives like the Chinese Commie Court Reporter who uses a fake name and came from a Beijing CCP Military newsletter.


27 posted on 08/01/2021 7:50:58 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists are the real danger )
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Liberal indoctrination has become a families biggest threat and they are being taught that relationships with their families must be sacrificed if they do not bend to their progressive agenda. “It is for the greater good and must be punished and conservative parents must be exiled”.

We all have friends and families who are going through this right now. We horrifically did, just did this past week. Our daughter in her mid thirties came to visit from Ohio, with two kids, seven and ten, she is in the middle of a divorce. She got our of her car, and after greetings, I asked what she had paid for fuel on the way and how much it had gone up since the last time she drove here. She threw her hands up in the air, declared it was cyclical, and didn’t want to hear it, obviously it triggered her. The next afternoon we turned “The Five” on in our family room, the kids were in there with us. She comes running out, grabs the kids and sequesters them in their bedroom. (So her son played some war game video while we watched the violent Fox News). This happened again with Tucker and the same the next day, Things started going south and a big argument ensued, not about politics, but anything that could be thrown up at us. Her children are a mess, rude, spoiled and arrogant. In fact when my husband took the ten year old boy for donuts, he started ranting about “poor George Floyd”. I was sitting on the sofa one night with my leg stretched out and her brilliant seven year old daughter who was on the sofa next to me, said “get your feet out of my face” (I was no where near her face). The argument was horrible and she left but not before she screamed “in the last 48 hours you looked like BIDEN sniffed you and licked your cheek, LOL”. It was the most unhinged thing I have ever heard and honestly, deranged. She has become unglued and declares she will not take any crap from anyone ever again.

So for now, this relationship is in shambles and I don’t know how it will change. She made me so sick, I don’t care at this time.


28 posted on 08/01/2021 7:58:21 AM PDT by Toespi
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What’s Ripping American Families Apart?

Werewolves.

30 posted on 08/01/2021 7:59:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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The tax code tore families apart.


32 posted on 08/01/2021 8:02:11 AM PDT by upsdriver
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They are not families. They are users. Since we removed excellence and productivity and inserted everyone mooching off everyone else, fights are all that’s left.

Lazy kids tell their parents that the parents had better give them everything or else. Parents succumb to the threats.


42 posted on 08/01/2021 8:26:13 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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