You seem to wanna have a rapture thread. You guys should get together and post one. All this bleedover from your anti-rapture nonsense just pollutes ordinary threads.
I’ll ping Roman_War_Criminal so that there is plenty of intersection of interest. Best of luck with those religious arguments.
RWC and I have been around the block on this several times and I remain unpersuaded.
Revelation 3:10 “Because you have kept my word of patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world to test the inhabitants of earth.”
Does the phrase “…will keep you from the hour of trial…” mean that the Church will be “removed” before the Tribulation begins?
No. There are many Bible verses that show that Christ permits his Church to suffer persecution and tribulation.
In John 17:15 Christ says, “I do not pray that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from the evil one”.
John 16:33 says, “In the world you have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
John 15:19 says that Christians have been chosen “out of the world,” but it does not say that Christians will be ‘taken’ out of the world, prior to a time of persecution.
The Church will endure persecutions and tribulations and it will come through them purified. (Mt, Rm, Cor, Thes, Rev.)
You either believe God’s Word or you don’t.
He pulled Enoch out of harms way.
He took Noah and his family to safety.
Lot and his daughters rescued.
Daniel, Shadrach,Meshach, and Abednego were all spared.
Jesus - multiple times.
Paul same.
Peter same.
The remnant Church at the end of the age will taste this rescue as well and nothing that happens after that moment will ever be the same again.
No amount of arguments will ever convince naysayers of what God’s Word says. God’s Word will be fulfilled.
Whenever the Rapture happens, that will be the hammer that starts the real SHTF scenario,
We get closer to it with each passing day.