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CDC Cruise Order Decision Reversed After Florida Appeals to U.S. Supreme Court
Cruise Hive ^ | July 24, 2021 | Emrys Thakkar

Posted on 07/24/2021 6:28:52 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

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As I said when things go to court the outcome is not predictable. (Capt. Obvious speaking)

More confusion and action expected.

Is your head spinning yet?-Tom

1 posted on 07/24/2021 6:28:52 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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“The importance of this case extends beyond the cruise industry. From here on out a federal bureau will be on thin legal and constitutional ice if and when it attempts to exercise such sweeping authority that is not explicitly delineated by law.”

Thank you, DeSantis for pushing back on the ever growing authoritarian state.

2 posted on 07/24/2021 6:40:29 AM PDT by Fzob
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For those keeping score at home, this isn’t a binding precedent. Instead, it’s merely ruling on an Emergency Application and that ruling comes from the Justice responsible for overseeing the 11th Circuit....Clarence Thomas.

So, the District Court in FL found favorably for the State of Florida. The 11th Circuit stayed that decision with a preliminary injunction and now Clarence Thomas has vacated that stay order, which now leaves in place the injunction issued against the CDC by the District Court in Florida.

It will be interesting to see if Biden’s Administration withdraws their order to moot the case because as Thomas points out in his order to vacate, the case is likely to eventually be heard by the Court on the merits. Thomas capably lays out the argument why the CDC clearly oversteps its authority. Team Biden may not want that heard and decided because it’s (hopefully) a loser for them. Here’s Thomas’ order...

https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2021/07/23/21A5.pdf


3 posted on 07/24/2021 6:42:27 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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The cruise industry is probably finished. There will be endless panic pronouncements and cruises will be prisoner to endless changes in rules. This is yet another huge business killed by government interference.


4 posted on 07/24/2021 6:52:55 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Fzob

Yes, thank you.


5 posted on 07/24/2021 6:57:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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Gosh. What a screwed up article.


6 posted on 07/24/2021 7:00:16 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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Rochelle is going to get a lot MADDER


7 posted on 07/24/2021 7:15:52 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Knee-jerk government bureaucrats who issue illegal orders and regulations need to suffer consequences when they act wrongly. Loss of jobs and retirement benefits, fines, even jail time when appropriate.

These clowns casually destroy businesses and lives. When a court reverses their evil work, they simply continue to the next victim.

They really need to pay a price.


8 posted on 07/24/2021 7:16:40 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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There is a lot of capital tied up in cruise ships, a lot of jobs across the globe in shipyards, and a lot of jobs tied up in port services.

I don't think it can all go away just like that.

-PJ

9 posted on 07/24/2021 7:30:37 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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PJT - I agree with you there. I think a lot of people miscalculated when they went after the cruise industry so hard. Follow the money? Besides, it doesn’t make sense if you look at comparable venues.
Colleges and universities? How are they so different?
Air travel - not really very different.
Casinos - are you seeing lots of similarities?
Theme parks? And I think Disney owns a cruise line that had been hugely profitable.
Branson has a cruise line that suffered many delays because of WooHanFloo.
Really makes you wonder who (or is it the WHO?) wants the cruise industry totally destroyed.


10 posted on 07/24/2021 7:54:56 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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DeSantis also has a trump card, ban cruise ships. My ports, subject to state law. If you want to do a vaccination check once you leave port, go ahead. See how that works out. Otherwise, no discrimination. And, it is simply that.


11 posted on 07/24/2021 7:55:49 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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Otherwise, no discrimination. And, it is simply that.

There is also the Constitutional aspect:

Article I Section 9

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
Any regulation of cruise ships in Florida must be applied nationwide. Therefore, any ruling that prevents the CDC from regulating cruise ships in Florida must also be applied nationwide.

-PJ

12 posted on 07/24/2021 8:05:23 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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“The cruise industry is probably finished.”

As long as a single positive test, sinks the entire voyage, the industry is gone.

Even if the jabs were 95% effective, there could be a ship coming back with 20 positives anyway.

Odds for 100% negative results CANT HAPPEN.


13 posted on 07/24/2021 8:10:55 AM PDT by George from New England
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The cruise ship industry is worth billions to FL. That’s a trump card he could never play.


14 posted on 07/24/2021 8:12:53 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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Superb post. Thanks very much.


15 posted on 07/24/2021 8:13:30 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Watch "THE CHOSEN," about Jesus & the disciples He chose: https://watch.angelstudios.com/thechosen)
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There is a lot of capital tied up in cruise ships, a lot of jobs across the globe in shipyards, and a lot of jobs tied up in port services. I don't think it can all go away just like that.

On the other hand the global warmist cabal has been trying to get rid of the entire industry for years, and this is their big opportunity. They don't like the hoi polloi gallavanting around the globe. That's for special people on private yaghts.

16 posted on 07/24/2021 8:20:02 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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Many folks I know are not making travel plans until this nonsense goes away. Right now all trips we were signed up for thru 2023 we have cancelled.


17 posted on 07/24/2021 8:20:42 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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I had no idea district courts were overseen by Supreme Court justices. And the SC justice can vacate a district court ruling? Is this common?

I seriously thought I was educated.


18 posted on 07/24/2021 8:21:24 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: George from New England

This is easily handled

HCQ plus Zn to treat on first symptoms

Quercetin plus Zn taken by everybody

It’s easy. Just ignore CDC and Fauci


19 posted on 07/24/2021 8:25:12 AM PDT by politicianslie ( We will NEVER be a communist country-President Trump)
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To: ScubaDiver; Tennessee Nana; Ann Archy; entropy12; SJackson; George from New England; ...

Good informative post. Thank you.

My computer has out flanked me again, and after I find the computer hidden Cruise ping list I cannot copy, cut or paste any of it.

If you know anyone who might be interested in this thread please notify them.

I added in few as recipients to this post but left a lot off. -Tom


20 posted on 07/24/2021 8:47:33 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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