Posted on 07/21/2021 6:49:12 AM PDT by Enlightened1
https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/marty-makary/93029
“Think Twice Before Giving the COVID Vax to Healthy Kids
— Based on the data to date, there’s no compelling case for it right now
by Martin Makary MD, MPH, Editor-in-Chief, MedPage Today
June 10, 2021”
Both statistics - one shot deaths and two shot deaths - should be reported, so they can be compared.
Median age (half younger - half older) would also be helpful.
2+2=Delta variant doesn’t kill people, vaccines do.
Anyone can make a report.
I have read reports posted on VAERS from non-medical personnel.
Doctors, nurses, nurses aids, family members, neighbors, friends have all made reports on VAERS.
I have read them myself.
Coronavirus PING!
1) You would first have to assume that, like the CDC assumes that everyone who died with COVID died from COVID, that every death after a vaccine was caused by the vaccine.
2) Then you would have to assume that the 12,313 deaths figure is accurate, not closer to 40,000 as some data has suggested.
If you grant both 1 and 2, then yes, I personally think that a 1 in 15,000 chance of death from the vaccine (or 6.67 deaths per 100,000) is better than the (claimed) 185 per 100,000 deaths from COVID in the U.S.
However, there's a whole lot of assumin' goin' on here.
“ The VAERS is reported by healthcare professionals to the CDC
Adverse reactions and deaths need reported by real people. Not by government propaganda.”
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Meanwhile, numerous times Ransomnote has said that the CDC lies.
Is she wrong?
So they’re going to continue stacking up death reports because they’re anti-Trump, even though they’ll also reflect poorly on Mr. Joe Get Vaccinated Biden?
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. t’s reported by healthcare professionals.
VAERS (if done even remotely correctly) is not some 2-3 minute oh we are done ordeal.
It’s also a federal crime to initiate a false VAERS report.
On top of that, actual reports are in the range of 1 to 10% per the CDC.
I wouldn't be surprised if the real number was far lower than that. The numerator is even easier to lie about than the denominator.
VAERS incurs a number of limitations including variable clinical information, potential underreporting and overreporting, vague descriptions of adverse events, uncertainty about the generalizability of the information, lack of data on concomitant exposures and supportive tests, and, perhaps most importantly, major limitations in assessing the causal relationship between vaccine exposure and the adverse event.
Sounds reliable……..s/
What’s more reliable?
If there is not something more reliable, is your approach to close your eyes and ignore the possibility of harmful effects?
Yes, absolutely. They will keep suppressing the truth for as long as they can. The agenda that they are following requires it.
“ So they’re going to continue stacking up death reports because they’re anti-Trump, even though they’ll also reflect poorly on Mr. Joe Get Vaccinated Biden?”
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Excellent question.
Here’s the thing………there are days that someone can get off the internet and not have a damn clue what’s true or not.
You point is so well taken………there are forces on all sides pushing their narratives by any means.
What I believe people want, what people need is the truth.
Personally vaccines are a choice. Get one or not. I’ve always maintained that position.
But the mass confusion being piled on between the Biden Admin, Big Social Media and Anti-vaccine people, I believe is doing harm.
Perhaps we’ll never have truthful information coming out regarding Covid-19 and the vaccines.
That is just one more reason why ill be glad when this is finally over and it’s behind us. Who knows how many lives it will cost and the reasons.
What I believe people want, what people need is the truth.
What people need most is removing immunity for vaccine makers. Until that is done, it makes sense to assume the vaccines are harmful and rushed.
And the government and medical community would still deny it or question it.
Even if someone dropped dead on their toes after receiving the vax, they'd attribute it to something else.
Most likely coincidence.
“ What’s more reliable?
If there is not something more reliable, is your approach to close your eyes and ignore the possibility of harmful effects?”
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First hand accounts with people in the field with actual patients.
Not some Naturalist Doctor with a blog that hasn’t seen a patient in years.
Your County is a wealth of information. More reliable than the Federal Government and gives localized info.
Hospitals have reports also.
State Health Departments maintain information on numbers of available Hospital Beds and in what area…..ICU, Labor and Delivery, Cardiac, etc.
It’s difficult to get real unbiased information. A lot of leg work involved too.
Great question.
Thank you.
Given the favorable balance of risks you’ve cited, would you be in favor of mandating the jab, either by federal law, or by the present method (nearly unavoidable government-encouraged coercion).?
Assuming that death count is even close to being accurate.
I have no doubt that the government is hiding the real numbers. They want us vaxxed way too badly to allow something inconvenient as deaths to interfere with their agenda of getting everyone vaxxed.
First hand accounts with people in the field with actual patients.
What if the doctors are fanatics who mock people hesitant to get the vaccine online? What if the doctors are people who think vaccines should be made mandatory? What if the doctors refuse to consider the possibility that a vaccine caused a death?
“ What people need most is removing immunity for vaccine makers. Until that is done, it makes sense to assume the vaccines are harmful and rushed.”
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Yes, right now vaccine manufacturers are immune from Civil Suits.
But not Criminal jeopardy.
The top Officers of the vaccine companies can be charged with Criminal offenses that could result in huge personal fines and prison.
So they still need to watch themselves and do the right things.
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