[Red Badger]

We have not seen the oldest stars, just the oldest stars that we can see...................

[arthurus]

That "oldest" riles me in my own field of interest, archaeology. "Science" proclaims a site or an artifact to be the "oldest" ever made or built. Then a couple of years later another is found that is older and again is the "oldest" ever made. Only once have I seen it said that "this is the oldest yet found"