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To: BeauBo

OK, time for another one of these. My positions -
1) bioethics require full risk disclosure and free choice. Neither of these are being met.
2) For high risk populations, the risk/benefit ratio for the USA vaccines seem to make sense.
3) We do not know all the risks yet.— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


4) for pediatric and young adult populations, the data do not currently support adequate risk/benefit for USA vaccines. So stop.
5) mandating vaccines is wrong
6) censorship is wrong
7) attacking others credibility as a way to win arguments is the refuge of the stupid— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


8) Dr. @GVDBossche is completely correct as a virologist and vaccinologist in everything that I have read of his. Time will prove him right - I am confident in that. But IMO as a physician, the death and disability in the high risk populations still merits vaccination— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


9) There is a concerted effort to suppress information and dissent in support of the nobel lie— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021



10) the noble lie is-
a. we have to reach herd immunity for economic recovery and to minimize death and disability
b. these genetic vaccines are the only path available to herd immunity
c. these genetic vaccines are perfectly safe
Each of these statements are demonstrably false.— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


ADE is the bear in the woods, and could change everything. I am referring to current, well supported data. At this point, I still put ADE in the "unproven risk" column, and continue to watch carefully. Aspects of the data are pointing towards this being a true risk.— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


"no known comorbidities" is the key concept. As one gets older, most of us no longer meet that criterion. Strictly speaking the line may be at the 65-70yo range. Rigorously answering this requires full actuarial analysis, which has not been disclosed to the public if performed— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


no, not at this time. I took moderna x2 and had long lasting side effects. And statements about vaccine "treating" long covid are irresponsible. This hypothesis needs to be prospectively assessed in clinical trials before being treated as fact.— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 19, 2021


3 posted on 07/19/2021 2:28:14 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

“And statements about vaccine “treating” long covid are irresponsible.”

Completely anecdotal, but my daughter’s business partner had long covid. He could hardly walk up the stairs to his apartment without resting, and he’s in his 30s.

He got the first dose and was able to get around much more comfortably, and by the second dose he was almost back to normal. Whether it’s time, the placebo effect, or the vaccine, of course I can’t say, but I’m glad whatever it was, he’s better.


6 posted on 07/19/2021 2:53:47 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: dynoman

You’re preaching to the covid cultists... These folk would shove a banana up there ass if the government said it cured covid and if Fauci (the false God) said 2 or more bananas would be better there would be a banana shortage.

Common sense and rational thought has been thrown out for political science vice sane real science.

Send me billions and I’ll tell you anything you want to hear... That’s the new science.


16 posted on 07/19/2021 3:09:38 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: dynoman

The vaccination rate in the vulnerable populations (>65 and etc.) seems to be high enough that the mortality rate to be expected from a “fifth wave” of covid is going to be trivial.

Add to that whatever portion of that population has immunity from already having had covid, etc. At this point covid is not likely to be a significant public health issue.

Early results from the UK and Euro fifth wave seem to be showing that.


29 posted on 07/19/2021 4:53:23 PM PDT by buwaya
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