Posted on 07/19/2021 2:04:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin
A 35-year-old man was shot to death following a “heated” dispute over loud music at his Valley Glen apartment building over the weekend, the Los Angeles Police Department said.
Officers responded to a report of a shooting around 2:40 a.m. in the 6800 block of Coldwater Canyon Avenue and found the victim with multiple gunshot wounds, according to an LAPD news release.
The victim was pronounced dead at the scene. Police identified him as Eduard Avetisyan.
During the investigation, detectives learned that the shooting transpired after what they described as a “heated neighbor dispute over loud music,” the release stated.
Derhovansian had confronted the victim, who lived in the unit above him, and demanded he come downstairs...
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Not guilty and deserving of a community service award
The worst is that I remember as a kid in the 50s walking down to street to the pistol range at Centinela Park with our 22 rifles. The teacher at school kept the rifles in a closet for us those days and we’d walk after school. Now a kid would be shot or if not shot arrested, removed from the family and sent to a shrink.
Victim = complainee = young Armenian
Accused = complainer = old Armenian
Accused shot victim upstairs after victim refused accused’s request to go downstairs.
So…
Drunk, relatively young (35) Armenian upstairs playing music at 2:30 am at a volume loud enough to disturb the sleep of the old (66) Armenian downstairs.
Old Armenian finally convinces himself to get up, get dressed and, because you never know, arms himself to go upstairs to confront noise maker. So, after laboring upstairs and composing himself, old Armenian knocks on the door (maybe louder and louder) until young, drunk Armenian answers.
Details of their conversation are lacking (as are whether or not the two had a history of prior confrontations), but the pattern of it was probably something like:
“Too loud!”
“Is not!”
(Repeat 10+ times)
THEN
Old Armenian: “Ummm…this is getting nowhere. Why don’t you come downstairs and hear how loud it is in my apartment?”
Young Armenian: “F - - k You, Old Man! The only reason I’d come down stairs is to kick your a- -, m - - - - r f - - - r!”
Old Armenian: “No need to become violent. Just come and see how…”
Young Armenian: “Violent! Violent!! I’ll show you violent, you old b- - - - - d!”
Old Armenian” No! No! Wait…“
(Sound of gunfire.)
A couple of final thoughts:
Arming yourself in advance of entering a potential confrontation is a reasonable act and not necessarily evidence of premeditation.
Old men do not usually fight younger opponents; they either put up little to no defense (take the beating) or they just kill you.
I bet you’re very close to the truth.
The schools have been too busy indoctrinating to teach literacy. This generation doesn’t even know basic English Composition rules. They just say “literally” and “super” a lot and think it makes them sound intelligent.
The units were too close together. We should go back to single-family dwellings like the little house on the prairie.
It’s a horrible thing to be robbed of one’s sleep (on a regular basis) by a neighbor: either from noise disturbance in an adjoining apartment unit or in an adjoining yard.
I have a friend that lives in Glendale. Owns a whole bunch of rentals there. He can’t stand all the Armenians that have moved in there. He says they’re rude and obnoxious....and don’t know how to drive. lol
I’ve been treated rudely be them, as well. I went to the Post Office recently and some Armenians were customers ahead of me. The postal employee, an older white man who looked about retirement age, was still visibly upset when I reached him. He began to vent to me about how awful Armenian customers are. According to him, when they have a receipt to pick a package up at the post office, they refuse to wait in line like everybody else. They will simply walk in, hold the receipt high, and give it an arrogant little shake, with a sneer on their faces, to say, “Bring me my package now, servants, I’m not waiting in line.” The guy was fit to be tied, said it happens all the time.
I used to know a lady who managed an apartment building in Glendale. She was a sweet little church lady, never said anything bad about anybody. But she hated Armenians, tried not to rent to them.
I’m with you. Put me on the jury.
“Old men do not usually fight younger opponents; they either put up little to no defense (take the beating) or they just kill you.”
Correct. It’s very convenient that we have constitutional carry in Utah. At 72 I’m not about to scuffle with some punk.
I just turned 72 a few days ago myself. I live in northern Virginia and the laws concerning self-defense here, in true Virginia style, are “complicated.”
Asserting a self-defense claim here has a couple of key nits-not-to-be-picked for such a claim to hold up. Among them are: 1) that you didn’t provoke the confrontation, 2) that you didn’t commit a criminal offense (like brandishing a weapon) yourself during the run up to the actual shooting, and 3) that the minimal amount of force was used. Under these rules, the actions of the old Armenian would strip him of his right to claim self-defense. Primarily because, when he went upstairs, the situation went from disturbance to confrontation and secondarily because he shot him multiple times (until dead) at the scene. (There are not enough details to know whether or not he brandished the weapon prior to the actual shooting.)
Better to just call the police and let them sort him out. If they end up shooting him, there is a completely different set of rules involved.
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