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Why Sexual Morality May be Far More Important than You Ever Thought
Quest with Kurk Durston ^ | December 21, 2018 | Kirk Durston

Posted on 07/19/2021 9:05:49 AM PDT by packagingguy

If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

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TOPICS: History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: morality; religion; sexuality
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For all the craziness that seems to baffle many of us on FR this is a pretty good read about where our society stands right now.

The author summarized J.D. Unwin's work called "Sex and Culture" which was published in 1934. Unwin was a social anthropologist at Oxford University.

In a nutshell he found when a society abandoned sexual morality it disintegrated within three generations. He studied numerous societies to come to this conclusion.

His original work is here: https://archive.org/details/b20442580/page/n7/mode/2up

Maybe this could help explain to everyone why our society seems to be in a state of irreversible decay. We are more than three generations after the sexual revolution of the 1960's.

1 posted on 07/19/2021 9:05:49 AM PDT by packagingguy
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“characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs.”

Millennials.


2 posted on 07/19/2021 9:15:34 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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“characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs.”

Millennials.


3 posted on 07/19/2021 9:15:34 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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One of the most peculiar terms coined by this perverse generation is “safe sex.” Everyone seems to be in pursuit of it, while giving vague definitions of it.

It used to be that sex was reserved for exclusive enjoyment between and man and his wife. “Safety” never was a question.


4 posted on 07/19/2021 9:18:37 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: packagingguy

Good article. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 07/19/2021 9:21:22 AM PDT by alternatives?
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We are more than three generations after the sexual revolution of the 1960's.

No, according to the article, we are close to two generating into it. (66 years) Unwin calculated a generation as 33 years.

6 posted on 07/19/2021 9:25:16 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Sex is on the decline. People are more focused on their “mental health”.


7 posted on 07/19/2021 9:26:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: marktwain

My bad, I see you are correct.


8 posted on 07/19/2021 9:29:03 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Romans 1:18-32 is more succinct about this and there we find the three steps to human destruction:

1. Willful self-determination
2. Wicked self-deception
3. Woeful self-destruction

One of the first things we get self-determined about and wickedly self-deceived by is our sexuality and desire for sexual pleasure.

Satan knows this far better than we do and is very helpful helping us destroy ourselves with sex.

That’s what he gets off on: our self-destruction.

9 posted on 07/19/2021 9:29:05 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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“some moral laws may be designed to minimize human suffering and maximize human flourishing long term.”

ALL moral laws are “designed” for that.

And actually they are not so much designed as learned. Learned through the school of hard knocks, ie, centuries of experience.

“Moral laws” are really “nothing more” than rules for living which when followed will likely result in more long term happiness, than when not.

They make a big part of what we call values and they are the essence of any culture. They are the do’s and don’ts that are ingrained in all of us from childhood on.

They also make up a big part of any religion.


10 posted on 07/19/2021 9:31:37 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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It is important because God is still very serious about sin and punishing sin. We must pay the consequences for our sins whether we like it or not. We might think we are getting away with something just because God doesn’t always act immediately, but the fact is, we don’t really get away with it at all, there comes a reckoning at some point. That job promotion you might have gotten had you not done certain sins without repenting lost, lost opportunities, illness, lost job, whatever the case may be, our actions have consequences somewhere down the line.

Of course this doesn’t mean that the righteous never suffer, or the unrighteous always suffer in this life, but the fact remains, we pay the consequences for our decisions to sin somehow, at some point, either in the life or in eternity.

God’s views on sexual immorality hasn’t changed just because society no longer takes God’s word seriously, and because there attitudes towards sexual sin has devolved. His views on sexual immorality hasn’t changed just because people no longer fear him as they once did. Sin is still sin, and we still must suffer th3 consequences of sin even though we can’t lose salvation for sinning. God never exempts his children fro having to suffer co sequences for their actions


11 posted on 07/19/2021 9:40:44 AM PDT by Bob434
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Worth the long read!!!


12 posted on 07/19/2021 9:43:31 AM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Sorry, you can add every previous generation back to at least the 50s. We have been on a steady path to rot for a long long time consumed with self.


13 posted on 07/19/2021 9:45:21 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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One more note, even when a society devolves into ‘lawlessness’ and ‘sexual deviancy’, where ‘anything goes,, and nothing is forbidden, there still exists a universal moral code. This has been proven by those who came out of such societies and proclaiming something g like ‘even though there were no laws, and everyone did whatever they wanted, I never was comfortable and always sensed that it was wrong, and knew there and to be a better way. Convert after convert has said essentially this same thing. The holy spirit moved In their hearts and compe,led them to seek God, even in a goes social situaiton, and God rewarded their willingness to seeks answers to their uneasiness which was caused by God’s universal moral code written In their hearts and minds. They never hardened their hearts against that code like so many others had, and God rewarded them for seeking to break free fro the bondsge of sin that their godless society imprisoned them in. Folks think sexual immorality is freedom- it isn’t, it is bondage to sin


14 posted on 07/19/2021 9:48:49 AM PDT by Bob434
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It goes way back before that even. Some of the raunchiest films came from the very early 1900s. 5he history Channel I think it was, and a show on it,, and it was filthy.. but really, sexual immorality goes back to even the beginning of the world, where rapes did happen, where in. Noah’s time, 5hings were totally out of control. Even angels, fallen, were having relations with women it is said. Sexual immorality is nothing new, and was always bad. People just ignore how bad it really is


15 posted on 07/19/2021 9:53:50 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: aquila48

When I was growing up and learning from my Depression Era parents I was taught certain absolutes. Things you just don’t do. We were only told why in doses and when maturity and example presented opportunity.

Mostly, you are correct, the reason not to do certain things is that things just work out better if you don’t. People have learned these things over time and try to help younger people not have to learn them again and suffer the consequences all over again.

In high screwl I had an engrish teacher as a senior named Lucretia. She scoffed at my take on tradition being things that have stood the test of time as being small minded and unsophisticated. She was also one of those who eventually screwed up her life. In time I got to laugh at her and did. It was delicious. At the time I was able to drop her class and switch to Speech instead, that served me much better than more engrish. It did a lot to prepare me for my profession.


16 posted on 07/19/2021 9:56:55 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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1934 was a long time ago! You mean to say that history suggests pretty strongly that immorality is a bad idea? Wow! Who would have thought it?

/s

710 pages is a lot of Social Anthropology!


17 posted on 07/19/2021 10:00:43 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Bob434

It has been around a long time to be certain. Sodom got its reputation from something.


18 posted on 07/19/2021 10:07:19 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Bob434

“Folks think sexual immorality is freedom,-it isn’t, it is bondage to sin”.

Very good statement. Sometime in the distant past, in Catholic school, one of the teachers put forward the idea that the more a society turns to immorality the more oppressive the government becomes.

We can see exactly what this teacher was trying to point out just looking where our society is today. While trotting out all forms of sexual madness our government is tightening its grip on speech, the economy, and eventually our religious institutions (The “Equality Act” of 2021, H.R. 5).


19 posted on 07/19/2021 10:15:55 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Bookmark


20 posted on 07/19/2021 10:20:20 AM PDT by twin2
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