Posted on 07/18/2021 12:26:43 PM PDT by ransomnote
ransomnote: I'm really greatful to Alex Berenson and Ran Israeli for reporting and translating this information detailing the rise of Covid in Israel, which is occurring mostly among the vaccinated (green, in first charts on the left).
Does anyone know which vaccines are being used there?
Which one or ones?
Thanks.
No one listens to you anymore. Your pocketbook is obviously involved.
How many unvaccinated people who already had COVID are getting COVID again? Funny how you never hear a word about that demographic.
Pfizer. The leadership of the country privately sold the entire population to Pfizer for Pfizer’s Phase III trial. The details of the contract are private for 30 years. No one asked or told the public. They were ‘vaccinated’ in a 5 week vaccination push. Not all are vaccinated - the unvaccinated are second class citizens not able to eat lunch outdoors at cafe tables etc.
 Google Translated Version (original, below): "Very telling graph: antibody protection induced by vaccine is 2 months + 12 days. Peak secondary infection stronger in vaccinated, no doubt by the ADE effect and the emergence of new variants. Obvious failure of vaccination in this epidemic, Mr Macron "L Montagnier
"Graphique très parlant: protection anticorps induits par vaccin est de 2 mois+12 jours. Pic infection secondaire plus fort chez vaccinés, sans doute par l'effet ADE et l'émergence de nouveaux variants. Échec patent de la vaccination dans cette épidémie, Mr Macron" L Montagnier
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Google Translated Version (original, below):Â "Very telling graph: antibody protection induced by vaccine is 2 months + 12 days. Peak secondary infection stronger in vaccinated, no doubt by the ADE effect and the emergence of new variants. Obvious failure of vaccination in this epidemic, Mr Macron "L Montagnier
"Graphique très parlant: protection anticorps induits par vaccin est de 2 mois+12 jours. Pic infection secondaire plus fort chez vaccinés, sans doute par l'effet ADE et l'émergence de nouveaux variants. Échec patent de la vaccination dans cette épidémie, Mr Macron" L Montagnier
Thanks, and so odd, that was my guess immediately.
If this is so different from Covid, why does the same test pick it up?
Predicted.
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Not much noise anymore from the vax Nazi’s. Fact: The jabs are DECREASING, but the “ reported “ side effects, deaths , and break throughs are rising, it doesn’t take genius to see the long term illness trajectory from the experimental jabs will be huge….enough I believe to bring about a mass uprising. EVERYTHING about Covid has been played, from it being just another flu, to the jabs stink to high heaven. Time is beginning to tell a horrid story.
….most important, those putting their trust in corrupted man’s ways instead of God’s promises will suffer the most. A sad state we have entered. Revival, always brought about by a nation being brought to its knees, is hopefully coming, and rebirth of a fallen nation.
“ Vaccinating during a pandemic is “unthinkable” and is causing deaths, the winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize for Medicine said.”
Did Monsieur Montagnier awaken to this possibility just now ? What was his position during the early stages of the pandemic when mass vaccination was being discussed ? Did he voice his concern then ? I would very much like to know.
Secondly, if mass vaccination was such a horrible idea what was his recommendation for controlling the pandemic ? Just ignore the spread but keep treating people with various concoctions until every person on earth had survived Covid or died from it ?
“No one listens to you anymore. Your pocketbook is obviously involved.”
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Not sure why you would say that but you’re wrong. I’ve refrained from making unfounded claims that our resident anti-vaxxers are in the mortuary business and financially benefit from folks not getting vaccinated.
You don’t own a funeral parlor by any chance, do you? /sarc
“ If this is so different from Covid, why does the same test pick it up? ”
It’s different from the point of view of the antibodies. Since the spike has mutated significantly in the delta, the antibodies from the vaccine are not able to bind to the spike and the virus is able to escape. In that respect it’s different. Otherwise the rest of the virus is much the same.
How does the death rate compare to another small Middle Eastern country with good records(relative to other Arab countries) like Tunisia where vaccinated are less than 10% of the population?
“How many unvaccinated people who already had COVID are getting COVID again? Funny how you never hear a word about that demographic.”
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It would be nice to see that stat. I’m certain that the protection against new infection is at least as strong among those with natural immunity as it is among those with vaccine induced immunity. IMHO, natural immunity would be at least as strong and, very possibly, “broader” than vaccine induced immunity. It all contributes to herd immunity.
Time is beginning to tell a horrid story.
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In all seriousness, I pray for the loved ones in my family who got stampeded over the ‘vax’ cliff or pressured socially and gave in to the jab. I also pray for those on FR that have said they are jabbed and humanity in general.
I pray that the docs, very credible docs with experience and wanting to do the ‘right’ thing (as opposed to those that are evil like Fauci, et al) are in fact wrong about what they are predicting/think the long term issues will be. If even ONE of the things they have predicted happens, it is going to be a disaster for humanity.
I have seen a couple of video interviews where the docs are SO upset they can hardly speak what they are thinking ... the word they are having a hard time saying is ‘genocide’. Over the top? Maybe ... I pray that is the case, but the fact that they would even think that term out loud or like Dr. Malone who brought up the thalidomide tragedy in his concerns for the pregnant women who have gotten the jab & what might happen with their children or even the generation after that, is shocking/sobering & upsetting.
I did see an article that people are missing their 2nd shots. A lot of the adverse and/or significant effects happen after the 2nd shot .... the info, despite the Biden Regime/Evil Ones attempts to hide the info, is leaking out more and more despite their best censorship & bullying tactics & folks are getting more informed and making their own ‘informed consent’ decisions. They are not consenting to the 2nd shot when they know the truth (some just miss appointments, but 15 mill?).
15 million people in the U.S. have missed their second dose of the coronavirus vaccine, CDC says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/02/missed-second-dose-covid19-vaccine/
Good explanation of Delta infectiousness.
https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1415672461111271424
Basically, it’s not the difference in the S protein that makes it so transmissable but it’s much more rapid reproduction.
“-People infected with delta test positive more quickly following exposure, suggesting more rapid viral growth.
-The viral loads (by PCR Ct) are 1000 times higher in delta when first detected...”
Link to study in thread (linked to thread because the discussion helps us laymen undertand.)
It would be nice to see that stat. [“How many unvaccinated people who already had COVID are getting COVID again? ]
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Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?
Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762
“Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.”
“Infected previously” AND presumably also vaxxed- since Israel has a high per cent vaxxed.
(Notice the report doesn’t say how many of the “previously infected” were also vaxxed- or not.)
“Natural “ immunity by itself is very, very good though!
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