Vaccine ‘obstinance’ is fueling Delta variant’s spread across America

LA Times ^

[MNDude]

“I’d say there’s hesitancy and I’d use another word — obstinance,” said Dr. Philip Keiser, a University of Texas infectious disease expert who’s been Galveston County’s Local Health Authority since 2016. “There’s this attitude, ‘You can’t make me!’”

With local hospitals full and no sign of Delta letting up, he fears Mesa County’s luck has run out.

In Galveston County, a lot of vaccine converts would have to step forward — and fast — to keep the Delta variant at bay. Keiser is still hopeful, but he’s not so sure he can persuade enough people in time.

[metmom]

You’re right.

Spreading illegals across the country is fueling the spread.

[heavy metal]

it’s a tactic to shame the anti-experimentals...

[metmom]

I like that better than anti-vaxxers.

Because there are really only a tiny percentage who are totally against all vaccines.

Not wanting to be a guinea pig for big pharma and the uS government, does NOT make me an “anti-vaxxer”.

[heavy metal]

i’m not against vaccines...

i’ve had several throughout the course of my life...

i don’t trust our government pushing experimental medications on our citizens while biden is spreading the invaders across our country...

they’ve divided us in the process...

it’s experimentals vs anti-experimentals...

[heavy metal]

and feel free to spread the terms far and wide to combat the misleading labels that are being used...

[greeneyes]

Here’s Karl Denninger’s thoughts on this BS crap:

We must force both pharma and the regulators, along with our government at all levels to account for now-apparent, clear and outrageous failure of the existing shots along with the flat-out lies being told today as regards their efficacy.

Specifically, 100 out of 700 (1/7th) of the crew on the HMS Queen Elizabeth have become infected with Covid-19. Every one of the crew was fully vaccinated and thus any attempt to blame this on “plague rats” that aren’t vaccinated is obvious bull****.

I note that this rate of infection (14%) is within statistical spitting distance for population pre-existing resistance as documented in June of 2020 (80%) which strongly implies that the jabs are very close to worthless if not completely worthless in preventing both infection and transmission.
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We must identify and publish detailed, de-identified associated harms from the jabs and norm them to the population segment and existing morbidities as a whole.

Every health insurance company in the private sector and CMS (Medicare and Medicaid) have this data and, since the vaccine rollout is in fact not “free” if you’re insured (it’s billed to your insurance company) the firms know conclusively what events coincided with or were closely associated with these shots and how that compares with their last five years of data in the same population and morbidity segments.

In short the data across over 150 million Americans does exist to show what, if anything, is happening and at what rate. ...snip...

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad

[greeneyes]

I’m not only anti-human guinea pig, I’m also anti-stupid. Here’s some of Karl Denninger’s thoughts:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3976639/posts?page=66#66

[gitmo]

But now they’re saying the “vaccines” don’t prevent infection but they reduce hospitalization.

[gitmo]

Hospitals are not full of covid patients.

A year ago I had hip replacement surgery and was hospitalized for a week. On the last night, they suddenly moved me to the COVID ward and I was then added to the COVID numbers. There was no reason to do that other than collect Federal dollars and inflate the numbers. I have been told that is a common practice.

[greeneyes]

They are lying SOBs.

Here’s some more from Karl-Go read through his excellent articles and analysis at the link I provided above:

These “vaccinations” lack said scientific and publicly-disclosed data. In fact there is evidence of intentional concealment and lying related to the said data, along with deliberate coercion to not report adverse events.

There is further evidence in the slide deck presented to the FDA prior to the EUA approvals that these adverse effects were known risks and investigation to determine the scope and scale of said risks (e.g. close monitoring via blood work in the study participants) was not undertaken.

Since the risks are now documented (via the “fraction of a second” slide since uncovered during said presentation) to have been known this refusal to investigate was deliberate.

In addition the reason it takes so long to qualify a vaccine is that only with an extended period of time do you learn whether actual protection against infection and transmission occurs.

The presence of antibodies is not sufficient and neither is very small absolute risk changes; the former has zero scientific proof of efficacy and the latter has no statistical power; to otherwise state is fraud.

Now we are learning that not only are the adverse effects real, evidence is emerging that as with every other attempt at vaccinating against a coronavirus transmission is not interrupted nor is infection, meaning that all you have left is potential personal reduction of serious or fatal outcome risk.

***For people without significant morbidity factors it appears, now that we have solid data emerging on same, that the absolute risk reduction compared with the adverse effect risk is profoundly unsound on a statistical and medical basis for both healthy young people and healthy adults.****

“Strong urgings” without facts that the government and private industry both have at this point and are refusing to disclose must be met with a stern “NO.”

If said “strong urging” is attempted to be turned into a mandate via any form of coercion whatsoever, including employment or educational sanction or disability that attempt must be met with whatever amount of pre-emptive force is necessary to stop it, as at that point we’ve gone from attempting to convince people to do a dangerous thing by intentionally refusing to disclose the evidence what is proposed is dangerous to actual attempted manslaughter or worse ..snip..

[gitmo]

There will be at least one per year.

[greeneyes]

There will be as many as they need to give them an excuse for their tyrannical policies.

And they will continue to bring in as many diseases as they can, through their open border policies-which includes shipping the carriers to any place that is without rising cases.

As long as they are doing this importing of disease, their rules and proclamations are totally fraudulent. JMHO.

[gitmo]

Is there any other vaccine out there whose purpose is not to prevent infection?

[gitmo]

I’m not anti-experimental. Quite the contrary. My family is in the Control Group.

[greeneyes]

My family is in the control group.
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That’s kinda what I told my primary care doctor. I told him that I had decided to be in the control group. He laughed and said that was the best response he’d heard all week.

[gitmo]

I’ve not been able to open any of your links to Karl’s information. I will search for the posts.

[greeneyes]

See if this one works - I just went there.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad

[gitmo]

It does. Thank you.

[Justa]

“Vaccine ‘obstinance’ is fueling Delta variant’s spread across America”

I say BS by anecdotal experience. The Delta variant is very contagious and very benign. I don’t believe the vaccine prevents infection. It just clears it quicker -maybe.

I’ve had Covid (Jan ‘20), the 1st Pfizer shot (Jan ‘21) and the J&J (June ‘21) and I still got the Delta last week. It was a lot of sneezing and a bad runny nose for 3 days. That was it. I didn’t even need to take a day off work. And certainly no hospitalization like I had for the Alpha variant in Jan ‘20.

[metmom]

But now they’re saying the “vaccines” don’t prevent infection but they reduce hospitalization.

It's called desperation.

They have to give people SOME reason to take the shot.

If/when people realize that the injections don't do that either, they will have lost all credibility and good luck convincing people next time, although considering the lemming like gullibility and general stupidity of the human race, I'm not so sure ........