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To: dforest

I am not afraid.
You are getting out one side of the story. All stories have two sides. I am reporting what I see each day
Why does disagreement bother you? I am not personally offended by debate. Seems to me that you are the one who doesn’t want to hear the whole body of the evidence.

And the truth is this. This is evidence both opinions can point to in support of what they want believe. Trust me. No one wanted ivermectin or HCQ to work more than any of us who actually treat this. I am sick of treating this disease.

I have never been for lockdowns
I have fever been for forced vaccination
It is clear that the vaccinations are making a difference
It is clear that there is a treatment. It’s called monoclonal antibody therapy.
The way the monoclonals are given is horrible.
Fauci is an Hollywood idiot who doesn’t practice medicine. Never has. Never will
Trump gave us OWS in a show of American ingenuity and it appears to be working.
This is the third wave of the pandemic and it appears that those who have compares this tk the Spanish flu were correct
All pandemics end
This one seems to be hitting herd with a more contagious variant plus already acquired natural immunity plus vaccinated immunity

Everything I have said above is objective statements and reasoned judgments. We can disagree on them. But would prefer to hear on point discussion than the usual what big pharma do I work for (none) and the superlative rhetorical brio of go out on a mask and sit my soon to be brain dead body in a corner. That is just amazingly good debate.

Have a pleasant day


30 posted on 07/16/2021 7:10:15 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
Understand this. I get the vax government position on this daily. Every thing that does not support the Biden admin on covid gets banned, taken down and disappeared. THAT is a giant red flag.

The only way people can hear our warnings is through places like FR where free speech is still allowed.

I am not an anti vaxxer. I have had plenty in my life. I am an anti covid shot person who is against this shot 100%. It is an evil experiment. If someone wants to participate, fine. Do It.

At the very least they should have access to all information.

This experiment has never taken in mind any medical history or current health issues of individuals to see if they should even get this shot. I find that reckless and endangering. The packets come blank with no information in it provided to the people. That is disgusting.

I guess the drug companies don't need to because they have no liability for deaths and injuries. Yet people who have had injuries are left with the damage and doctors don't really want any part in helping them. This happens when government and politics get involved.

We know your side and if both sides were given time without intervention and banning perhaps things could be different.

That doesn't happen though. The more they squash info from all entities the less trust people will have. That is human nature for people who are not sheep. There is no need to make everyone take this shot. This is why we are pretty sure that there is a very insidious reason for forcing this on people.

39 posted on 07/16/2021 7:30:21 AM PDT by dforest (huh)
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To: gas_dr
I have fever been for forced vaccination


46 posted on 07/16/2021 7:36:32 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: gas_dr
This is evidence both opinions can point to in support of what they want believe.

But here's the thing, gassie. What you call 'evidence', we call dead or maimed human beings. Actual REAL human beings. And they do not appreciate being referred to as 'evidence'.

It is clear that the vaccinations are making a difference.

If you mean by 'making a difference', cutting down on the infection rates of the covid (or covid wanna-bes), then there is PLENTY of evidence that its not.

The evidence that your poison vax is NOT safe and effective is piling up. Is it your pride that prevents you from seeing it?


52 posted on 07/16/2021 8:10:39 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr

“All stories have two sides.”

NOT TRUE! Not even close to true.

There can be MANY sides to a story.

You probably like “fair and balanced”.

Example:

Supporting men who sniff little girls hair and fondle their prepubescent nipples.

Now, let’s hear from the “other” side on this issue.

THERE IS NO OTHER SIDE, THERE IS NO OTHER STORY!

It is SICK! PERVERSE! and it’s our president of the United States.

I realize you are talking about the faux vaccine, but it’s the same thing.

The mRNA vaccines/jabs are DANGEROUS PERIOD! They were approved at warp speed when a vaccine was not even needed.

There is only ONE story here. That is that we are being and have been being MANIPULATED from the start. We have been LIED TO from the beginning.

You can’t/won’t see it or you are part of the problem.

Time for you to WAKE UP. gasbag_dr


68 posted on 07/16/2021 1:35:36 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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