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To: grey_whiskers
…the Ivermectin paper did not make peer review because of concerns with plagiarism in the *Introduction*.

No, the plagiarism raised the researchers interest. The other problems with the paper are what got it withdrawn:

”The authors claimed to have done the study only on 18-80 year olds, but at least three patients in the dataset were under 18,” Lawrence said.

“The authors claimed they conducted the study between the 8th of June and 20th of September 2020, however most of the patients who died were admitted into hospital and died before the 8th of June according to the raw data. The data was also terribly formatted, and includes one patient who left hospital on the non-existent date of 31/06/2020.”…

“In their paper, the authors claim that four out of 100 patients died in their standard treatment group for mild and moderate Covid-19,” Lawrence said. “According to the original data, the number was 0, the same as the ivermectin treatment group. In their ivermectin treatment group for severe Covid-19, the authors claim two patients died, but the number in their raw data is four.”…

” The main error is that at least 79 of the patient records are obvious clones of other records,” Brown told the Guardian. “It’s certainly the hardest to explain away as innocent error, especially since the clones aren’t even pure copies. There are signs that they have tried to change one or two fields to make them look more natural.”


103 posted on 07/16/2021 12:02:05 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
No, the plagiarism raised the researchers interest. The other problems with the paper are what got it withdrawn:

”The authors claimed to have done the study only on 18-80 year olds, but at least three patients in the dataset were under 18,” Lawrence said.

“The authors claimed they conducted the study between the 8th of June and 20th of September 2020, however most of the patients who died were admitted into hospital and died before the 8th of June according to the raw data. The data was also terribly formatted, and includes one patient who left hospital on the non-existent date of 31/06/2020.”…

“In their paper, the authors claim that four out of 100 patients died in their standard treatment group for mild and moderate Covid-19,” Lawrence said. “According to the original data, the number was 0, the same as the ivermectin treatment group. In their ivermectin treatment group for severe Covid-19, the authors claim two patients died, but the number in their raw data is four.”…

” The main error is that at least 79 of the patient records are obvious clones of other records,” Brown told the Guardian. “It’s certainly the hardest to explain away as innocent error, especially since the clones aren’t even pure copies. There are signs that they have tried to change one or two fields to make them look more natural.””

Looks like it was pretty much a completely falsified study. Maybe it was written by climate scientists.

104 posted on 07/16/2021 1:38:10 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: semimojo

Huh, that’s not what the earlier complaint in the thread said.
Thanks for those details.

I’ll try and find time over the weekend (no guarantees, have some work related training to do) to look at the study and/or critiques a little closer.


105 posted on 07/16/2021 1:38:37 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: semimojo

Mic drop if I ever saw one.

Good job.


108 posted on 07/16/2021 4:16:03 PM PDT by David Chase (DavidHereToHelp)
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To: semimojo
Read the Guardian article.

The plagiarism in the introduction was mentioned first, then the other errors you mention.

What I found telling was this:

"“Although science trends towards self-correction, something is clearly broken in a system that can allow a study as full of problems as the Elgazzar paper to run unchallenged for seven months,” he said.

“Thousands of highly educated scientists, doctors, pharmacists, and at least four major medicines regulators missed a fraud so apparent that it might as well have come with a flashing neon sign. That this all happened amid an ongoing global health crisis of epic proportions is all the more terrifying.”"

Peer review. And then a lone heroic Master's student finds all these errors.

Because SCIENCE!™

Like I told some other pro-jab troll, I don't trust peer review, the process is busted.

Or, more precisely, just because someone has a semi-defined process, and slaps the label Peer-Reviewed (angel chorus) on it, doesn't mean what they're doing really catches pertinent or systematic errors, or eliminates groupthink.

111 posted on 07/17/2021 4:58:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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